Video game thread

@TeamBlueplant  
I have PA but I’ve never played it so I can’t speak to it. But in the campaign, at least, you’ll rarely have more than two fronts to handle. And as a lifelong turtler, I can tell you that there’s no force that can’t be stopped dead in its tracks with the liberal application of clusters of shield towers and lines of turrets several rows deep.
 

 
And yes. It does. Well, not battleships but the Cybran destroyer-class can walk across land. Pretty viable for what would normally be gimmick weapon, too. A solid tactic is to have a swarm of them in a mixed naval force secure the sea around the enemy’s nearest beach, then send them in for a pincer. Nothing like watching 40 walking destroyers trudge out of the water and scythe through the enemy’s base while most of their defensive units have moved to the front. Aircraft will tear them up if they’re alone but usually not before they rip open the enemy’s asshole.
 

 
I should add I wasn’t saying the second game was bad for what it was. Actually I thought it was pretty good as a sort of SupCom-on-the-go title when you’ve got 20 minutes to kill. It just doesn’t offer anything to recommend it over the original. In fact if you told me the first game was the sequel and the second was the original, it would make complete sense.

@Officer Hotpants  
PA titans is more of a blob and swarm fest than supreme comander though its similar in mechanics with the big difference that you also have space and planets as a 4th tactical layer, though that also means that if someone is turtling too much you can just drop a asteroid or planet on them or say “fuck you, im going down but i will take you with me “
 
supreme comander 2 was already too much of a swarm fest for me though the experimental units broke that up a bit
 
im more the kind to use small but specialized groups of units and make tactical descitions with them like on dawn of war 2, close combat, imperium 3 and coh 2, even if lelic insists on nerfing germany over and over again because gringo faction players cant properly play around OKW strenghts and weaknesess
 
that being said i might play supreme comander 1 for the sake of it

@Officer Hotpants  

 
Always wondered what Scotty’s body count was after all those “transports”.

@Officer Hotpants  
Nope, I played the PC version, RTS and console are a bad mix (looking at you, Halo Wars >:C)
 
But before I get distracted on a tangent that Halo Wars was such a wasted opportunity, and should have instead been more like Company of Heroes: Halo Edition rather then whatever Age of Mythology discount edition it was (Relic should have made it, not Ensemble Studios!! >.<), let me get back to subject.
 
I never played Planetary Annihilation either, I was excited to hear that it was a spiritual successor to TA and it would take place over an interstellar scale. But after seeing gameplay of it, it felt very “spam most of this unit” with the titular interplanetary devastation being more of a gimmick then anything else.
 
It certainly didn’t have the same gravitas of the sheer scale of SupCom’s battles. I think the issue is the size of each planet, you just can’t have legions of hundreds strong all fighting each other in real time on what are effectively little ping-pong balls floating in a large, empty void.
 
 
@EverfreeEmergencies  
Oh fuck man, don’t even get me started on that shit. This is why Trek always creeped me out, the sheer obsession with materialism and “look at all our cool tech, isn’t it so utopian?!” while meanwhile they casually use methods of transportation that kill their user.

@TeamBlueplant  
When you say “Imperium 3” do you mean Imperium Galactica? Because I thought the series ended at 2.
 
 
@FeatherTrap  
Star Trek is so utopian that they can’t go three weeks without some alien empire or space anomaly threatening to destroy the galaxy/universe. And usually it’s the direct fault of the Federation for fucking with something they shouldn’t have (and sometimes KNEW they shouldn’t be).

@FeatherTrap  
Star Trek annoys me more than anything, as much as it’s one of the few TV shows I enjoy. Every episode is like getting just past the climax of a book only to find out the rest is blank pages. Only speaking of TES, since I haven’t watched any others.

@Officer Hotpants  
@EverfreeEmergencies  
Hot take I know, but that’s why the only Star Trek show I liked was DS9. It was basically a space-ghetti western (and I love westerns!) that didn’t shy away from the darker aspects of the universe, without going full edgi-grimdark.

@FeatherTrap  
I think that’s why DS9 is everyone’s favorite. Plus it was just nice to have a captain who was all too happy to end your shit if you pushed him. When he threatened to poison that world the Maquis were trying to claim if they didn’t cut the shit with their own world-poisoning antics, and then went through with it when they called his bluff, it was like having the wind knocked out of you. In a good way.

@Officer Hotpants  
Ayup, don’t fuck with the Sisko. >.<
 
Even Discord learned you don’t fuck with the Sisko.

@FeatherTrap  
I fucking loved that. “You… hit me. Picard never hit me!” And then he never came back.

@FeatherTrap  
I watched a bit of TNG and Voyager, but every scene felt too drawn out for my liking.

@Officer Hotpants  
“I’m not Picard” Classic Sisko, such a fucking alpha chad.
 
However, this is the video game thread so let’s get back to that, shall we?

@FeatherTrap  
Wasn’t there a third person star trek shooter for the Xbox 360? I remember it looking extremely clunky.

@EverfreeEmergencies  
Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force. I hear it was actually pretty solid. The one that always threw me was Star Trek: Invasion for PS1. It was basically Colony Wars set in the Star Trek universe. I didn’t even know there were single-ship fighters in Star Trek.
 

@EverfreeEmergencies  
Well yeah but we were talking about Star Trek TV shows. XP
 
If you’d like to talk about the game instead, I’m sure that would be fine.

@FeatherTrap  
That was intended to be a subtle shift toward talking about the games, but I’ve never been good at transitioning between ideas.  
@ANoobis  
Did some digging, the one I was thinking of was just called Star Trek.

@EverfreeEmergencies  
Wow, that looks really bad. I see it was based on the off-brand Abrams-verse.

@EverfreeEmergencies  
Oh hey, I remember that piece of shit. It’s the exact same brand of blockbuster garbage as the reboot movies, except lower budget.
 
@ANoobis  
Right on both counts.

@ANoobis  
@Napsack  
Something about it makes me believe it was supposed to be Kinect compatible at one point.

@Officer Hotpants  

 
nah, a series of rts games set in the roman era, i think it was never released in gringoland for some reason so i guess thats why it isnt well known
 
there was also a spin off citibuilder game calles imperium civitas

@EverfreeEmergencies  
@Napsack  
Oh yes, one of those “Action Adventure” games, talk about a make-believe genre too broad and vague to mean anything, right up there with “Immersive Sim”.

@FeatherTrap  
Immersive Sim is easier to define and narrower in application, to my mind. It’s a simulation that’s trying to simulate an entire interactive world rather than just a few elements of one. Even aspects that are more or less useless to the player for the purpose of completing the game. Typically allows for numerous solutions to most problems as well, due to simulating an entire environment rather than a specific scenario.
 
Action Adventure is a truly useless term; it must encompass at least some 75% of games. Describing a game by what platform it’s on is more descriptive.

@ANoobis  
All you need to know about it is this.

@EverfreeEmergencies  
Stupid tends to remain such regardless of the passage of time.