Derpibooru Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Relief Thread

@Psy Key  
I vaguely remember some people commenting about how Joey was horribly fat (as in, morbidly obese fat) which is why he refused to share his pics with others. But again, I’ve seen some pics showing a few derpi staffers and they all look exactly as you would imagine a generic brony: all cringy looking, either already balding or with messy hair and either horribly fat or horribly skinny.
 
Also, getting rid of mental asylums was a huge mistake indeed, not because they could cure sick people (because no, they couldn’t) but instead because the terror of being sent and locked in a mental asylum was very effective in keeping tards from misbehaving and keeping their suckness to themselves as opposed of today’s tards, who wield their autism and asshatery as some kind of pride badge.

@Anonymous #5F71  
I honestly would not be surprised in the slightest, given how “either horribly fat or horribly skinny” describes all of the derpi staffers I’ve seen grand total of three that is, I know it’s not representative at all.  

They can cure SOME sick people, the kind that need a bit of isolation from poison to recover by themselves; but yes, the main point of asylums is containing the insane that CANNOT be cured and being a threat to retards so they behave. Oh and sticking those of them that can’t self-care there because these are incurable too, even if modern _culture touts those filthy fucks as completely normal.

@Psy Key  

 
 
I present to you all, Transtastic Tales, Episode 1: How the Sausage is Made - by Mister Metokur
 
I cannot warn you enough about this video. Do not eat anything during or prior. May God have mercy on your soul.

@Maulkin  
You made me remember when Purple Tinker went to /mlp/ to show off and brag about his post OP pictures. I also remember when other guy posted some post OP pics to brag about his new vagina, made out with a portion of his own intestine.  
It wasn’t something I would like to see again, and of course I don’t understand how some people believe that their post OP pics are something they can show to people who just like to watch a cartoon about ponies.

@Anonymous #5F71  

 
 
Well, when you live in clown world, everyone’s beautiful =D

@Psy Key  

 
That’s how it should be. There is good evidence (just one of the first results) for the existence of a genuine neurobiological condition, but it’s most likely way more rare than browsing twitter would suggest. Especially given that a good chunk of trannies are just really ugly dudes who never learned to accept themselves and most likely conflate gender dysphoria with low self-esteem.  
>tranny surgery  
That analogy kinda blows. It undermines how seriously difficult/impossible treating gender dysphoria is without physical transition. Yeah, for a lot of trannies, “dysphoria” is purely mental and a good bit of therapy would definitely fix it. But there’s also lots of people for who it’s actually the only way to ever reach a healthy mental spot.  
And that’s the fucked up part; it’s most likely hard to tell who needs hormonal therapy and who just needs good ol’ psychotherapy. It’s why there needs to be more research on the topic, and not just “give hormones to anyone who asks uwu” like twitterniggers want.  
I say all of that, but even I’m not 100% sure if I made the right choice by transitioning. I know for a fact I’m infinitely happier now than I’ve ever been in the past… 10? years. Now, what I don’t know is whether or not that’s purely because I transitioned, or if it’s because I made more work in general towards bettering my mental state. However, I can tell you that ever since the surgery I’ve been having no more of those really shitty dysphoric thoughts. They were already way less prominent than originally, because of the hormonal treatment, but with the surgery they disappeared entirely. I don’t miss my dick at all, even though it’s been 3 years since the surgery.
 
Since I’m already on a huge tangent, I might as well continue a bit. In 2012 I had my first suicide attempt. I tried to kill myself because my life was pretty trash at that point, but nothing really worth killing myself over.  
The big thing that made me try was twofold; I’d always been curious about what would be after I died, and I was really hoping I could reincarnate as my OC, primarily because she was female. I know that’s fucking retardedly autistic, but you can’t change the past. Back then I didn’t even know about trannies. I knew about drag queens, and I thought they were fucking retarded (still kinda think that they look stupid most of the time).  
I had a few more attempts, but none as serious as that. And most importantly, my last attempt was in like 2017, a year after I started hormones. The thoughts slowly faded afterwards.  
But then again, I like to think I’m very different from twitter trannies. First off, I actually try to look and act feminine, unlike a lot of the ogres that transition. Second, I put in a lot of work into sounding female. And last, I was never expecting it to be the one stop solution to all my problems. I knew it would only open up the possibility for healing.  
Like I said, I’m still not entirely sure if it was the right solution. I don’t regret it, but I do wonder if I could have solved it more optimally. I wonder if maybe it was all “just” depression and I could have overcome that issue just by trying harder.  
Sorry for the tangent, I just wanted to give a truthful account of how things were for me. I’m not trying to convince you that trannies would all have those same improvements, or that it’s even necessary for even the ones that do get better with transitioning. And I’m certainly not advocating for the same levels of retardation you see on twitter. Fuck their 539 genders, fuck allowing kids to transition, and fuck grooming people into transitioning.
 
@Barhandar  
>tranny surgery fatality rate  
I’m gonna give you a “citation needed” there. I know 3 people (including myself) who’ve had the surgery, and none of them even came close to having complications. My shrink also went through transition with tons of other trannies, and she never mentioned any of that. None of the medical health professionals I’ve talked to mentioned it being remotely as risky.  
Maybe it’s a global thing, and if you actually have a decent doctor, it lowers the risk to any other surgery?

@Anonymous #3CF1  

As far as I am inclined to believe, it’s the exact same kind of neurobiological condition as PTSD and depression for twittertrannies anyway, I have no earthly idea what’s happening for genuine transsexuals who have come to the idea entirely by themselves, but it might be similar to schizophrenia. Dysphoria can be induced, which is half of where the “transsexuals” are coming from (the other half is narcissists milking trans status for attention), and it’s also the reason for colossal lethality rate.  
Gender is, in fact, not a social construct, it’s a biological fact. And it works both ways. Telling someone male that they’re female, even persuading them to keep deluding themselves, only works as long as the pressure is kept up. Drop it (as is liable to happen once someone has underwent SRS, because someone fully transitioned is someone who can’t be milked for “trans attention”), and the gender reasserts itself as the person realizes that they’ve irreversibly mutilated themselves and experiences real body dysphoria along with massive depression.  

Those are few and still should go through mental therapy and medication first, with hormones and surgery limited to those for whom said therapy (and isolation from scum trying to traumatize people under the guize of “helping” them) has been insufficient.  

Irrelevant, suicide is irrational suppression of survival instinct by its very definition. Depression (both state aka symptom and disorder that is the primary, but not only, cause) doesn’t care about circumstances.  
>I wonder if maybe it was all “just” depression and I could have overcome that issue just by trying harder.  
Can’t overcome depression by “trying harder” or it wouldn’t ever exist. That’s what therapy and medication are for.  

 
The difference between you and twittertrannies is that you want to be female. They want to be trans. Whether because they kept being fed lies that they’re totally trans because they like crossdressing or appearing feminine or what have ya, or directly for attention.  

 
Those are same thing. Prepubescent kids are gullible and obedient, they’ll do whatever their parents want unless said parents are ULTRA abusive; independence is only asserted at puberty - and when the kid is force-fed hormones to prevent puberty, well…  
…I have absolutely zero positive or neutral things to say or do about anyone pushing transitioning on any dependent.  

I am counting suicides (i.e. 41% for mtf and 58% for ftm) as the surgery’s fatality rate, the direct complications are as few as any other invasive body reshaping surgery. These rates are basically “percentage of people for whom SRS has made it so much worse that they were pushed over the brink”; there’s very likely a sizable percentage of people who degraded but were still able to hold themselves steady, or ones for which SRS did not affect anything, but there aren’t studies because scumfucks are blocking the studies.

@Anonymous #5F71  

@Adan Druego  
Why choose between vaginal and anal when you can do both?

@Barhandar  
>first part  
Agreed, nothing to add.  
>second part  
Agreed, nothing to add (and I’m glad I had to go through a lot of psychotherapy before I was given the diagnosis, otherwise I’d be going insane nowadays)  

 
I know, but that’s not what I meant. Part of why my mental health was so shit was because I didn’t come to certain realisations yet, I was stuck in an echo-chamber convincing myself I deserved my depression. It’s only when I finally dropped that attitude that I started making actual improvements in mental health. You can’t get rid of depression by just trying harder, but it’s necessary to try in order to actually beat it.  

 
Nigga I couldn’t have put it better myself.
 
>allowing kids to transition and grooming are the same thing  
There are subtle differences. I believe that there are teens that genuinely feel dysphoria from an early age. However, as unfortunate as it is, allowing them to transition would open the possibility of a lot of impressionable twitter teens (the “blm <star emoji> she/her <star emoji> pansexual <star emoji> <sickle and hammer> <star emoji>” kind) fucking themselves over. It doesn’t necessarily need any active encouragement for a kid to misunderstand their feelings.  
Puberty blockers, on the other hand, from the little I know, are basically just delaying things with no major side effects.  
>suicides being counted  
Fair enough.  
>studies being blocked  
See that’s the part I’m most mad about. I fucking wish there were more studies. Not just studies that prove dysphoria is a thing, but also studies that would look into some other ways of treating it. Look if it’s possible.  
But dare bring up that idea in tranny circles and you’re immediately labelled as a transphobe (even if you’re trans yourself). We need to find out so much more about it, and yet the woke crowd just declares it taboo to even dare question it.  
God I despise the trans “community” so damn much
 
Yeah we should really stop derailing the thread lmfao

@Anonymous #3CF1  

Well yeah, that’s part of the depression itself. As I’ve said recently, wallowing in despair is pleasant, but not productive.  

12% according to grapevine. Or rather, it’s 12% of male sex children who persist in saying that their gender is female by adulthood; i.e. for 88% of them it’s really just a phase. No, I don’t remember what study had that percentage, or whether it lead to further studies (e.g. “how much of said 12% is genuinely trans, and how much is not?”).  

The delaying itself is bad, but being forced on them is bad too. It basically guarantees that their parents are incompetent, spineless hacks at best (i.e. are following whatever “doctors” like gates tell them instead of thinking and researching for themselves, and hence unable to set the child up for success), and most likely actively abusive and must be rid of ability to be near children or create new ones post-haste.  

Perhaps because real studies would knock the footing from under “transsexuals” who are actually narcs fishing for attention.

@Psy Key  
My mistake, then. Still, I remember that a derpistaffer was horribly fat and if wasn’t Joey then it was somebody else.

@Psy Key  
Found out that Fleetfoot is in fact male, they actually are going by “Fletch” now according to mrmeow’s Twitter page. mrmeow also turned them into a furry, disgusting.
 
Fleetfoot is not TSP but it must be an even greater loser pretending to have a “straight relationship” with “Luna a real girl” guess at least hes making good use of your left overs.
 
Just curious, did they ever try to convert you to the furry degeneracy too?

@Barhandar  

 
Not trying to change the subject or derail the thread, but one of the things I noticed in places like Craigslist, back before they took down the personal ads in order to virtue-signal about “human trafficking,” was that a big chunk of the ads any given day were from escorts. They were very explicit, too, none of this “I like walks on the beach” stuff, either. Lots of them, locally, were black women. Local demographics made this, as Heavy Weapons Guy would say, “not big surprise.”
 
And I remember being struck by how many of them said explicitly in their ads that they sought white men only as clients, or, even more explicitly, said “no black males.” I was sorely tempted to troll them with accusations of racism. The exertion of sheer willpower it took to step away from the keyboard probably took ten years off my life.

@Anonymous #3CF1  
Your accounts and points of view are very honest, and you’re the exact type of individual and please don’t think I mean any ill by saying this with gender dysphoria that I would expect and warmly greet within my future psychiatric office.
 
From as professional a standpoint as I can give from my current position, I regard that your decisions and sentiments, while perhaps misguided from my clinical perspective, are ones I believe to be genuine and based from a sole perspective. (I cannot give a more truthful answer, as I have not spoken with you in a more professional capacity. I apologize.)
 
From my perspective, gender dysphoria is completely a mental issue. (Issue meaning something to overcome, not something bad, as many associate the word with. Clinical terms are often more apt.) It is, as bold as I can express, akin to a mid-life crisis. Both events relate specifically with the self, one’s position in a more metaphysical aspect, and a desire to be whole and happy. Much like a mid-life crisis, I believe gender dysphoria to have a large possible factor vector. For those that have ever asked the question, “Would you kill 10 people to save 1,” at first you will encounter only a small number of likely results; but this expands as you begin to consider things like current situations, past events, eras both hypothetical and literal, political affiliation and climates, spiritual and personal beliefs, and all the way down the line. You will get a different answer every time, but similar answers can come from multiple people by including just a few pre-determined factors. This is why morality is both fluid and never perfect, but principles are based squarely on solid concepts that rely instead on showing allegiance to one or more factors, thus the outcome becomes a 1 or 0 depending. Morality proves that principality proves that conflict, however small, is inevitable. Otherwise, life would cease to be interesting.
 
I believe the majority of the factors, regardless of causality, should be inconsequential to the overall question. The answer is not one that can be educated into someone, but learned through experience and observation. I firmly believe everything anchors back to “who am I” rather than “what am I,” and so many do not concern themselves with purpose and goal, but euphoria and community. And, unfortunately, both the latter aid the creation of hiveminds and UvT mentalities. Eventually, one can believe there are no other options, and regardless of it’s validity, creates insurmountable divides in so many facets.
 
For many, it becomes this weird RP cult, where answers are before questions, and it’s all the rage within the sector, and it’s so easy to get carried away that it’s happened before you were aware. I speak of others, just in case I am confusing.
 
It would be interesting to speak with you more directly, concerning your timeline, to perhaps determine where insanity sets in with others that claim to be in your camp. If you are ever so willing and curious, I am humble and hospitable.
 
@Anonymous #5F71  
I would place my bets on Mikey.
 
@Anonymous #C346  
>making good use of my leftovers  
Top kek
 
Also, I would say yes. They repeatedly said, “Bronies are just diet furries.” Adding, “Just become a furry,” occasionally as if it was supposed to convince me of something that I had already concerned myself with many years prior.
 
To add, I would consider myself a furry much in the same aspect I am a brony. Make no mistake, I am loyal to my brothers and sisters within the brony fandom, and will remain loyal beyond my last cold, dying breath. I wear attire, flaunt my interests, attend conventions, and enjoy the art, porn, and stories when they pertain to my interests. I don’t have a problem with mega furries unless they go super cringe. If there is one thing humans could perhaps desire more than food, it is acceptance and relation. When one steps out of line pertaining to social norms, the best course of action is to not accept the actions and give disapproval. People gradually learn when and where something is acceptable.
 
When in Rome, do not appear as a Gaul.

@Barhandar  

 
Furries did not create these tactics, but in the dialup era of the Internet, they perfected them. Infiltrate, claim to be “fursecuted,” make dozens of sockpuppet accounts to point and shriek while driving everyone else out, attack and betray while screaming for help, destroy everything good about the chatroom or the IRC channel or the webforum or the Usenet newsgroup, drive out all content creators, celebrate by spamming “cub” (that is, pedo) diaperfur piss fetish guro snuff porn until the servers get shut down, then move on like locusts in crusty semen-and-feces-encrusted fursuits and do it all again somewhere else next week. Lather, rinse, repeat until furries are banned on sight even in places as anarchic as 4chan and Something Awful. The Internet remembers and furries are still despised wherever they go. The Venn Diagram of furries, trannies, and SJWs is almost perfectly concentric circles. Sad but true.
 
Look at the diagram. This is how they do it. Once upon a time 4chan’s /x/ creepypasta community created the SCP concept, the pages, the Wiki, the content, and the art. They created a new online community for people who shared common interests. Then SJWs sneaked in and got mod positions. Then they kicked out the founders and creators and are now wearing the SCP community’s rotting flayed skin as a suit, with maggots dripping out of its eye sockets to squirm on the floor and wave tiny little maggot-sized Trans Pride flags. This is the strategy furries created and used in the 90s. This is what they do.
 

@Anonymous #5F71  

 
Ah, Purple Dinkless. Is he still out there sperging at people about how he’s rilly rilly a woman now, and anyone who questions him is LITERALLY HITLOR?
 

@Anonymous #5849  
Now that I think about it, was the 4th step skipped during the derpi drama?

@Psy Key  
No, Mikey isn’t neither fat or bald.  
He’s thin, has a head full of long, (unkepmt) hair and has a (unkempt) neckbeard that looks like a mass of pubic hair stuck to his upper lip and thin neck. Combine that with his eternally drunk/stoned expression and you get a guy that looks and smells like the average bum that loiters around liquor stores to bother people for some loose change.  
To make it worse, he likes to wear adult diapers to soil himself.
 
 
@Anonymous #5849  
As far I know, he was so annoying and invasive that eventually he got himself permabanned from 4chan half a decade ago, just like Sethisto from Equestria Daily got himself permabanned for spamming /mlp/ with walls of shilling, bullshit excuses for being a shill and nonsense where he attempted to convince everyone that he was a nice, unbiased fan who should be forgiven and supported.

@Anonymous #5849  
See, I don’t think furries are banned on site on 4chan, mostly because there’s a board that works for every interest and it all works on thick skin and being just another guy on the internet. This is why it doesn’t work for those that love plebbit. Plebbitors need to feel included, recognized, and individual. They don’t understand how 4Chan can include all of that within the means of being various levels of anonymous. The simplistic design works for those that like the chill overall feel of 4Chan. It’s a classic internet space that doesn’t respect your sensitivity (for the most part) because sensitivity is at the core of individualism in the extreme. Plebbit doesn’t like the anon concept. It doesn’t allow them to face their ‘attacker’ and they’re not able to be ‘recognized’ and earn ‘karma’. They don’t understand that Plebbit is designed to manipulate you into chasing clout and forming mob mentality. If they looked even slightly deeper, they would understand that 4Chan, and all it’s off-chutes, are for interests on the internet. For interacting. For sharing. And for bullshitting, too.
 
Conveniently, Derpi staff hate 4Chan because it’s literally everything they can’t have without questioning themselves. They find one thing they don’t like, and they run. They fundamentally don’t think other people should also share what they enjoy.
 
That being said, though, the overall best way to break the cycle is to directly restrict the very core concepts of the ‘diverse’. Instead of their opinions being the issue of concern, make it specifically about their concept of ‘inclusion’. If their concept of inclusion does not allow those they dislike to be included, as long as they don’t break sensible rules that apply to everyone, then they do not support inclusion. Ask them why they feel they’re not included. After a while, they will have to admit that nobody else would like their retarded bullshit, and they just want to be accepted for being retarded.
 
Never play their games. The moment they shit the bed and whine like a cunt, you tell them, “Tough tits. Keep seething and neck yourself. Come back when you feel like you can let others be themselves as well.” If they keep niggering around, suspend them for a time and tell them to find landmines with a hammer. Rinse and repeat until they finally get the message and act like a normal person.
 
How is it easy for me, when I’m actually remembered in some aspects as being this massive faggot autist who hated whenever someone included drugs into any sort of artwork or creation with ponies? I remember going on massive bullshit crusading small brain crap. Nowadays, I see an artist who does that and I just ignore that and look at their other stuff. If they make that the core concept, I ignore them and move on. Case in point, there’s a cub artist I really enjoy the work of. Regularly, they feature their characters, who are meant to be underage, using various drugs. I ignore that shit and move on to their other work which doesn’t include it. It’s really not that difficult at all. It requires less work than seething about it. Derpi is just that woke that they physically could not sit still when they see someone taking a pony and making it do a nazi salute. They have to have the ape brain. “I either allow it and agree with it, or I smash!”

@Anonymous #5F71  
>Mikey  
Ah, well, I didn’t know all that about him. I’m not gonna throw shade for interests and kinks because everyone has their interests, and as long as they don’t make it literally one of the core things about them, go around telling everyone, and generally being a faggot then it shouldn’t be a problem.
 
It’s like, if I worked in an office, and some woman on a regular basis wears lingere under her work attire every day. She’s constantly ‘forgetting’ that sometimes it shows and secretly she wants everyone in the office to know. She makes a point to try and get people to know that she buys, and wears this lingere. To me, she comes off as desperate, needy, lonely, and creepy. I’m here to get my work done. We can discuss me fucking you at some later point, but not when you’re this needy cunt that can’t restrain themselves for a single moment.
 
Slightly off topic, but I know Byte is this toned, brown, commie, government-leeching, afraid of women virgin who is still affected by this vapid whore at his college/university. So, he’s also not the fat one.

@Psy Key  
Furries, or rather, anthro, is banned from /mlp/ though.  

Is to kick the fuckers out because they’ll never change, and not JADE in the process.
 
@Psy Key  
>and as long as they don’t make it literally one of the core things about them, go around telling everyone, and generally being a faggot then it shouldn’t be a problem.  
whiiich is exactly what mikey did, no?
 
Also ciaran is fat, but not “morbidly obese” fat.

@Psy Key  
Furries were banned outside of /b/ until the last year or so. Years before that a furry board was made and kept up for about a week, before being closed and everyone who posted in it getting permabanned. They’re still banned on certain boards, though. Whether explicitly or implicitly.

@Anonymous #5F71  
I swear to God. I swear to fucking God, man. I want to be able to say I’m one of the pony fandom. Obviously, because I’m here instead of farting around on Snapchat like all the cool kids. But this fandom has almost as many genuinely mentally ill people with genuinely broken brains as the Sonic the Hedgehog fandom. This fandom is worse than anime fandom, even the Pokemon and Naruto fans. This fandom is worse than Trekkies. This fandom is nearly as bad as furries.
 
I enjoy the show–the first two seasons, anyway, but this isn’t the time or place to get into that–for the quality of the writing, for the quality of the voice acting, for animation that looks absolutely mindblowing to someone who grew up on reruns of cheap, phoned-in, barely animated 1970s Saturday morning cartoons with writing that was worse than the half-assed animation, then binge-watched the cheapest and most phoned-in anime, like the Americanized Gatchaman with its migrane-inducing flickery two-frames-per-second “animation” and ba-ba-ba-ba lip flaps. I like well executed animation. I want to like everything about this show.
 
But Jesus fucking Christ. I go to a sci-fi or Linux or anime con and I see literal six hundred pound neckbeards in Rainbow Dash t-shirts, wearing literal trilbies atop their heads as they roll along on their Rascal(tm) electric scooters, literally tipping their stupid fucking hats–do you know who looked good in a trilby? Frank fucking Sinatra, that’s who, he was the last human being who could wear a fedora without looking like a colossal pretentious jackass, no one since his death could pull it off–and literally saying “m’lady” to terrified-looking female exhibitors in the hucksters’ room, bellowing in their outside voices that they’ve got their medical marijuana cards, so ya wanna come up to my room an’ get high an’ fool around? it’ll be GREAAAAAAT! while she looks around the crowd with “help me” screaming from her eyes so loudly that even I can pick up on it, and I’ve never been terribly perceptive when it comes to nonverbal communication. The last con I attended was in 2017. I’ve never even been to a pony con. I don’t even attend sci-fi cons any more because pony fans come to them and behave in front of me and the whole fucking world in ways that make me cringe so hard that I wonder if I’m going to fall over dead right there.
 
And the cringe-inducing behavior I’ve seen from pony fans–I don’t want to use the meme word “bronies”–in person pales in comparison to what I see them do online every day at places like Derpibooru and Fimfiction. This one’s in the news getting busted for kiddie porn, this one shoots up his workplace, and on and on and on. People in this fandom let their autism freak flag fly in ways that makes everybody else look around nervously and take a step backwards. Not everyone, but enough of them. When I look around the fandom I see batshit insane political extremism. I see wannabee NKVD kommissars who dream of sending Daddy to the gulag; I have yet to make the acquaintance of any right-wing authoritarians in the fandom, or even hear of one, not even one, and I have watched the show for eight years, and have been reading alt-right blogs pretty widely going back to before the term “alt-right” was coined. I see Daddy Issues everywhere in this fandom. I see Chris-chan levels of human trainwreck all over this fandom like a rash. At this point I don’t think anyone has to name any names.
 
This is why my relatives don’t know I watch the show. This is why my friends don’t know I watch the show. They send me jokes and memes about “dem brownie pedos what watch dat cartoon fer little girls. I hear dey all fuck animals. It’d be funny if dey’d all kill demselves, no, wait, dey should all be rounded up and strung up wif dey own guts, am I rite guise?” and I pretend I don’t know what they’re talking about and change the subject. No one but a couple of fellow pony fans I know online, who don’t know my real name or where I live, know I watch the show and read the fanfiction and look at the fanart and anonymously post the occasional shitty greentext on 4chan’s /mlp/. The rest of society, to the extent that they are aware of the show at all, associate this fandom with pedophilia and violent mental illness. I shouldn’t have to tell anyone here how people might have come to that conclusion.
 
No, I don’t have any idea what we should or even can do about it. I’m just complaining. I don’t have a plan. Don’t mind me. I’ll be over here behind seven proxies, watching pony videos on Youtube through TOR, with the door locked and the shades drawn.