Say What You Can't Elsewhere! (NSFW)

UrbanMysticDee
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All the talk about “masculinity” and “testosterone is declining” is a crock of shit. It misses the point entirely. The whole argument is “The reason we can’t have nice things is x” where x is whatever retarded thing retards want to believe in, in this case it’s disposable men and testosterone.
 
That’s another thing about the manuresphere is they simultaneously believe that men are essential to make the world function and without men doing all the dirty dangerous work civilization would collapse, and at the same time men are disposable because 10,000 years ago supposedly if half the men died nothing would happen because a single alpha chad could impregnate the entire village (how would the village even still exist if there’s just one man doing all the work that only men do?) but if half the women died then civilization would collapse because vageen is magic or something. These people claim to believe in evolution but at the same time: 1. don’t believe human population follows the same pattern of every other species (overshooting like it did now and then declining back to its equilibrium level, like it’s doing now, the so called “demographic collapse” fake bullshit disaster that’s not happening), 2. suppose situations that literally never happen (like one sex dying out and leaving the other totally intact, or the bullshit Kermit the Fraud Peterson Carnosaur diet of meat and salt and nothing even though if you look at actual hunter gatherers like 80% of their diet is plants), and 3. ignore the reality that technology has supplanted evolution while simultaneously believing it as the underpinning of their bullshit population collapse catastrophe (meaning humans use technology to support supposedly a trillion people squeezed into Texas with food grown by rapidly diminishing artificial fertilizer and ground water, thereby overcoming the natural equilibrium population of less than 1 billion people the planet can support, and at the same time believing that men need to hunt bears and shit and have through the roof testosterone and die of a heart attack at age 40 and live in a van and do manual labor out in the woods with other men while saying “no homo” every 5 minutes because that’s really fucking gay and not have any feelings or you’re a fag who has to say “no homo” every 5 minutes because you slap other men on the ass and compare your physique to other men you hang out with naked making grunting sounds lifting things at the gym even though technology has made men 100x more productive with a 2x lifespan over just a century ago).
 
It’s all a crock of shit. “You have to be a man going your own way, but you have to go the exact same way as all the other men going their own way or you’re a loser faggot soycel. The only white guys who give a shit about not being gay that much are the manuresphereians. And it’s this homophobia (while at the same time everything they do is really really gay, like really gay) that fuels their hatred of men who find a way to alter the matrix and beat women at their own game. “I make 5000 videos a week on why women are shit, but those troons man, they’re even worse because they’re men, who should be sweaty and naked lifting things with other men in the woods complaining about how bad women are, but instead of going their own way in the same fucking direction as every other man going his own way they act like women and for the first time ever ever the law lets them defeat women, who I complain about in every fucking video like they’re the plague, but now that a man has outsmarted me and has actually defeated women I have to complain even more.”
 
And play video games. “Sick rig brah! Let me slap your ass and stick it in you. No homo. Let me mine crypto out your ass. It’s only gay if our balls touch.” For guys so obsessed with masculinity and lifting things and traditions that only existed 50 years ago they sure are obsessed with what used to be the obsession of loser nerds and little kids.
 
They’ll show that picture of the Zoot Suit Larry and say “Men in the 1940s” and then show some guy wearing a topknot and sandals saying “Men today” implying that the guy who was considered a dandy faggot 80 years ago is somehow masculine because they’ve forgotten that he was made fun of as being a soycel back in his day for being so obsessed with his appearance. They have zero concept of how the world was before they were born and how fashion changes and how what defines masculinity changes. Men in the good ol’ days who used to dress in flamboyant expensive suits like Jordan the Lobster Peterson were considered faggots, they weren’t considered manly men.
 
Getting back to the beginning, the whole thing about testosterone declining is bullshit. Who the fuck cares? Men today are 400% more productive than they were a generation ago (even if they don’t get to keep the profits generated from all that productivity) and a single man today is more productive than like a whole village 1000 years ago thanks to automation, and men live longer, much longer than they did a century ago. You hear stories about your grandfather and great grandfather who died in their 40s or 50s from a heart attack eating the supposedly great carnivore diet with zero soy or high fructose corn syrup or artificial estrogen that food has today, and they lifted things and did manual labor with other men and came home and smoked like a chimney and drank themselves into the grave, for what? Do you REALLY want that? Do you want to break your back working and die early so your son can do the same? Do you want to live in privation so your son grows up to be a hard drinking hard smoking manly man who lives in a van by the river and plays video games and complains about women on the Internet, and then he can pass the same miserable existence on to his son? For what? It’s pointless. It’s existing just to exist. There is NO nobility in suffering. That’s slave morality. That’s the exact opposite of being the Nietzschean Overman the mgtows pretend to be. “I suffer, play video games, eat nothing but meat, lift weights, live in a van by the river, and complain about women on the Internet. That makes me a real man.” That makes you a fucking loser. And the popular guys who have all the followers are like the #1 losers. They’re the king of the losers.
 
So what testosterone is lower than it was a generation ago? Men are more productive and are living longer and the number one complaint is that they apparently don’t have enough problems so they have to make shit up online. The real problem seems to be lack of imagination, not lack of testosterone.
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Twiface
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@UrbanMysticDee  

 
I thought PUA’s were dead because everyone should know by now they’re conmen, but apparently there’s a new sucker born every minute.
 
I think MGTOW has some good ideas but they spend waaaaaay too much time complaining about women.
 
The only thing more annoying than Jordan Peterson fans is Jordan Peterson A-logs.
 
There are so many xenoestrogens in the water that frogs are turning into hermaphrodites.
 
I just got off a 14 hour shift, so I’m too tired to think straight.
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UrbanMysticDee
Chatty Kirin - A user who has reached a combined 1000 forum posts or comments.
Liberty Belle - Sings the song of the unchained

Bae > Bay
@ponypony221  
Rome ruled the world for a thousand years and not only gave out free food to the poor but the entire culture was built around treating unexpected guests like they were gods because they just might be. Rich Romans tried to outdo each other to see who could give the most to the poor.
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ponypony221
Chatty Kirin -

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@UrbanMysticDee  
A thousand years is an extreme over-estimate for how long Rome was relevant, especially for the behavior you describe. That picked up in the late republic as a way for the wealthy to buy power among the populace, which continued into the empire as a way to preserve stability. It was hardly a source of strength, but rather a sign of inherent weaknesses which eventually led to its collapse.
 
However, a second part of my take on Rome is one you might like more: the fact it was controlled so heavily by landed elites who rarely did anything useful was an inverted form of the same weakness. Passively profiting off the masses isn’t much different than welfare. Near-slavery of the population, then handing them back what was essentially stolen from them, isn’t exactly the concept of charity I was mocking. I doubt many Roman elites were doing it for a warm happy feeling.
 
Besides, Rome was barely a fad compared to Egypt, Japan, and China. I don’t think China or Japan ever truly fell, they only changed management.
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ponypony221
Chatty Kirin -

Excessively based homo
@ANoobis  
Still fundamentally China at the end, but under different leadership. There wasn’t a major cultural upheaval until WWII. They still count, especially if Byzantium does.
 
If modern China (or Taiwan) can be included is up for debate. I am not sure.
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UrbanMysticDee
Chatty Kirin - A user who has reached a combined 1000 forum posts or comments.
Liberty Belle - Sings the song of the unchained

Bae > Bay
Andrew’s Taint literally admits he fled the country so he can bribe the Rumanian cops to turn a blind eye to his human trafficking, why the fuck does anyone support him?
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