Video Game Industry BS (AKA, GamerGate Thread 2.0)

@TeamBlueplant  
The Enclave were made up of remnants (or the descendants thereof) of the United States government attempting to bring said government back into power. In the Fallout universe, the US government prior to the day the bombs fell was rapidly sliding into an authoritarian regime focused on brutal expansionism (Mexico and Canada had been annexed by force to claim natural resources), and The Enclave was created as a “continuation of government” contingency to bring about the restoration of the United States government by any means necessary, which over the course of Fallout 2/3 included mass murders (FO2), mass kidnappings (FO2), assassination of dissenting individuals (FO3), suppression of dissenting opinions (FO3), inhumane experimentation with FEV on both wildlife and humans (FO2), and general disregard for humanity in the face of their goal.
 
By the events of FO:NV, the Enclave had been all but eradicated between the Chosen One destroying their primary strongholds on the West Coast (Fallout 2) and the combined forces of the Lone Wanderer and the East Coast BoS waging war against the East Coast Enclave (Fallout 3); The Remnants in FO:NV are a shadow of the former Enclave and had fallen into obscurity, so you don’t see at that point in the timeline what they really stood for. In development terms, Obsidian didn’t want The Enclave to be a major player for the third Fallout in a row, so Ceasar’s Legion (roman wannabees) was introduced.

I’ve been looking through videos from people claiming to have been part of the crew on the mod (watching this one right now) to the looks of things many people on the crew where voicing complaints and concerns throughout the mods development about many of it’s biggest failings. Especially the weird sexual fetish shit. And if this video is an indication, I think the reason they didn’t jump ship before the ZuTheSkunk scandal was fear of being harassed by the mod devs and it’s fanbase.
 
Earlier I said this was going to be TLJ of mods, but in retrospect I’ve thought of a better comparison. This is the Fallout 76 of mod launches.

@FeatherTrap  
Fitting.
 
A part of me regrets not picking up a copy on Nexus when I had the chance, though. I’d have liked to see the circus in person.

@Officer Hotpants  
No you wouldn’t. I know you think you do, but only because you haven’t seen it for yourself >.<  
There are some things in life where you only think you want it until you actually get it. Then you realise this was a horrible mistake and your curiosity has left you scarred for life (Like Sprint in Halo).
 
Also, as this very mod highlights: cutscenes in a modern Fallout game is one of them too. The in-game cutscenes of 3 and NV might look goofy, but I didn’t realise why making it a proper cutscene wouldn’t fix this until I played the Frontier. I think they should scrap the idea of any kind of forced scene in Fallout, let your players ruin the moment if they really want to, and let them live with the consequences of it.
 
Deleted the mod from my nexus and archive. No regrets.

@FeatherTrap  
I mostly just wanted to meet Deathclaw Mommy.

@Officer Hotpants  
Degenerate >.<
 
Seriously though, it’s so bad you don’t want it, even if you think you do “for lulz”. :/  
No you don’t, it’s not even lulzworthy enough for that, it’s just pure crap.

I’m not sure if this is the right thread for it, but I’d just like to divulge for a bit. See, this dev team also made a previous mod for New Vegas called: New California. And seeing their attitude in and around The Frontier explains so much about everything that was wrong with their previous project. :/
 
Take for example the Enclave Playthrough. You have only one chance to start one, right at the beginning of the mod. If you refuse it, as one might reasonably do given the situation you are in at the time and might assume they’re leading you into a trap, then you cannot ever join them again.  
If you do join them, you are treated to one of the least substantial paths in the entire mod. See, this mod has two main faction paths, each have a few minor variations with a secret betrayal ending as a third option. Those two main paths are NCR or Survivalists (who are essentially a large alliance of raiders and slavers lead by a Psychopathic Mexican). The Enclave playthough is essentially the Survivalist campaign where you allow the Shi subfaction to take over them.  
For all intents and purposes, it is the Shi playthrough. With the only exception to this being that you occasionally get radio messages from Daddy Bragg and the occasional weapon pod drop. That’s it. That’s the only difference it makes to play Enclave. >.<
 
So why did they make it like this? It almost seems like they didn’t want people to play Enclave, and where punishing anyone who-
 
https://youtu.be/wKSBRU7iCwo?t=177  

 
….oooooooooooh :O

@FeatherTrap  

 
Why is it always a psychopathic Mexican?

@Officer Hotpants  
I dunno, ask the mod devs. It was their choice~ >.<

@FeatherTrap  
I’m thinking more in old 90s & early aughts movies and shit.
 
But yeah. As I said elsewhere the other day, all they had to do was say “there’s no Enclave playthrough because none of us really like them and we just didn’t have the drive to make one” or “we couldn’t think of a way to fit them into the story as a playable faction in a meaningful way” or even “we’ve been working on this mod for ages and we just wanted to finally finish it”. Any of those explanations, even it they were lies, would have worked. Most people would have said “oh, okay” and moved on. All they had to do was not overtly moralize to their audience.
 
But they couldn’t do that. So many mods and so many games have shot themselves in the face doing that and yet they just can’t help themselves. And the only thing more grating than being moralized to is being moralized to by a guy who will then proceed to rub his fetish for psychologically abusing emotionally dependent sex slaves in your face.

@Officer Hotpants  
What’s even worse is, not only did they do it for preachy, self-righteous moralising reasons, but they contradicted their own story in the process.
 
I keep saying this, but this team also made New California. This story is continuing on assuming the events from that mod happened first.  
The reason I am highlighting this, is that you can actually join the Enclave in that mod. The hell do you mean I can’t join the Enclave, I already did in my Enclave run! Heck, I never left! >.<
 
The Enclave ending goes like this, you’re presumed dead but you’re not taken off the roll. You should be able to walk up to them and report for duty. They might have some questions where you’ve been this whole time, but that would make for an interesting plot element. If you’re able to persuade them convincingly, you might be able to start with a higher rank and more equipment, if you can’t you get a reprimand and treated like dog’s breakfast.
 
The point is, a Courier that is still considered a hero of the Enclave is a very possible outcome in the story they themselves wrote. And then they just decided that your character doesn’t want to be part of them anymore, because it gets their panties in a twist.

@Officer Hotpants  
You can get it off of other sources.  
@Officer Hotpants  
Because crypto-racists.  
>But they couldn’t do that. So many mods and so many games have shot themselves in the face doing that and yet they just can’t help themselves.  
Welcome to overgrown babies. They always lie, they always double down, they always fail to learn from others’ experience.  
“BUH BUH IF WE DON’T VIRTUE SIGNAL WE’LL BE TARGETTED BY VIOLENT LITTLE SHITS” how about don’t join the violent little shits in the first place, idiot?
 
@FeatherTrap  
Somebody remind them of that.  
>not wanting to write villains because it might resemble some designated IRL Bad Guy faction  
For maximum hilarity? They’re the Enclave precursors. Just instead of purging mutants, they’re purging “undesirables” and “Nazis”.

@Barhandar  
I would, but they’ve probably already blocked me, and they’re in damage control mode because of the pedobait artist guy.

@FeatherTrap  
You lose nothing from trying if you suspect they already blocked you and they didn’t, though. Besides, you’re already HORRIBLE BROWNIE NUTZEE by just being here.

You know, I’m half tempted to just vent about New California here. It really is the prelude to the disaster that is the Frontier, you can see so much of what went wrong there rear it’s head in their original work. >.<

@FeatherTrap  
Do it filly. Just, don’t forget to use paragraphs properly so it’s readable :V

Everyone: Obviously, the creepy pedo Zu put in a minor to abuse-
 
Ezra Wayne:  

 
Stop using ZuTheSkunk as your scapecoat devs. This was a team fucking effort, you knew what you where doing.
 

 

 
It’s not just you, we all felt that way after playing it… v.v

@FeatherTrap  
Please do. I’d love to hear it.
 
@FeatherTrap  
Oh good. More Jack Thompsoning.
 
The image is number 871692 on here, by the way. And surprising no one, Derpi has deleted it in the last few hours (it was there yesterday afternoon). It’s something like six years old, if I recall correctly. So either they went digging looking for an excuse to throw someone under the bus or they already knew but didn’t care until a scapegoat became convenient.

@Officer Hotpants  
I’m going to have to go to bed now, I have important things to do in the morning. Stuff related to work. :/
 
If you’re wondering why I didn’t respond for such a while, it’s because I was going to type a big rant before realising it’s been a while since I’ve played New California. I played it thoroughly, came to many negative conclusions about it. And in the time since I kept the conclusions but forgot the reasons why I came to them, so I’m going to need to reinstall it again and replay…or watch a decent Let’s Play for it. Several in fact, since I’ll need one for every faction playthrough v.v
 
I’ll need time to do that, and I simply don’t have it right now. If anyone is interested and doesn’t want to wait for my slow ass, you can download the mod and play it for yourselves on the Nexus here.
 
While you await my hot takes, let me leave you with some parting funnies on the Frontier:  

 

Speaking of Frontier, the guy who wrote America (with all the slavery and foot fetish and other shit) is odinsword. History must know its “heroes”, ESPECIALLY when they’re trying to slink away unnoticed.

@Barhandar  
History is written by the victor, and 4chan+playerbase aka ‘Enclave’ have won this fight it seems.

I’ve just had a revelation. You can join Legion in The Frontier, but not the Enclave.  
You know, the literally designated bad guys who a large portion of FNV players shoot on sight.
 
Buuut it’s pretty easy to explain! What does Legion do?  

@Barhandar  
The government?

@Barhandar  
ANTIFA MAOSITS!

@Barhandar  
The Nazis?