Now, why would a people be shocked and horrified to learn about something like that, if they were living under tyranny themselves
Ever heard of this little thing called propaganda? The Nazis were rather good at it.
Suppression of information is also quite a bit easier when the state has direct control over all media, so no duh the average German was completely oblivious to the camps. Out of sight, out of mind, and all that jazz.
So wait - propaganda convinced the Germans that they were living comfortably (pre-war, at any rate), and that they were better off without the people pushing degenerative practices on their people? Is that what you think? Seems pretty dubious, tbh.
…Have you considered applying that to your own understanding of ‘Nazis’? That, perhaps, in the years since the fall of the Reich, you are subject to far more intense and well-practiced propaganda, propaganda which has been inculcated over generations rather than just a decade or two, and which has been practiced in a far more scientific, driven manner? That there may be a reason you are taught to hate the Nazis far worse than the Communists, despite the Communists being worse in every way (death tolls, means, motives, etc)? That, perhaps, you have been lied to?
Fuck’s sake, you tell your average leftist that they’re executing every mexican illegally entering the country at the border, they won’t be shocked and horrified; they’ll fucking believe you.
Actually, they probably wouldn’t anymore because – speaking of propaganda – Democrat media would never make such a claim with Orange Man out of office, and Snopes would immediately deboonk such claims under Harris-Biden, and thus you’d just be a crazy racist QAnon Trumpist for making the claim.
Notice how “kids in cages” vanished from the news cycle overnight, despite the number of children detained at the border increasing due to the higher number of people attempting to cross the border illegally? 🤔
That does not change my point in the slightest. You assert that The Nazis were totalitarian; well, either the German people were quite happy and content with a totalitarian regime that controlled their lives from top to bottom, or they were discontent with it - after all, that’s what totalitarian means, total control of people’s lives and livelihoods.
Those are the two possibilities if the Reich was totalitarian; either the Germans were happy with totalitarianism, or they were discontent with it. But then, if they were discontent with it, why would they be surprised when, after the war, they were told of the supposed atrocities committed by the Nazi party? Again, the average Leftist was discontent with Trump, despite any real totalitarian practices on his part; and if they were told, ‘Yes, he actually set up DEATH CAMPS for brown people!’, you and I both know the average leftist would believe it wholeheartedly. Why should we think that people who are actually oppressed by a totalitarian government would be any more surprised? Yet we do not see this; so one of those possibilities is thrown out.
We are left with either the Germans being remarkably content with a totalitarian Nazi regime that controls their lives (a dubious prospect at best)… Or the Nazi government was not totalitarian.
@Maulkin
>the average German
Yeah screw everyone else
Unironically yes. Why, do you think a government should have its focus on other peoples? We can see the result of that sort of policy; mass immigration, destruction of culture and society, a loss of social cohesion, and the constant lowering of the quality of life for all. Thanks, but I would prefer a government that is exceedingly chauvinistic towards its own people than one that opens its veins to the sewage of the world.