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Honestly, if you didn’t see the Harris/Biden admin going full Fascist coming, you just haven’t been paying attention to, among other things, the election “fortifying,” the creepy cult of personality that’s totally spontaneously sprung up around Biden, the Democrats being the party every self-declared Socialist politician in the US is in, and Fascism being the logical end point of Socialism…
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I will never understand why the “treatment” for trannies is enabling their delusions, unlike any other mental disease.
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But dude, there are tOtAlLyDiFfErEnTcOnDiTiOnS from the ones that led to the rise of NSDAP, so fascism will totally not happen in USA!
 
@Anonymous #372F  
Because they hijacked the alphabet soup and politics, and mental people have been eroding barely-set-up mental healthcare for several decades now.  
This is basically same thing that would happen if you got paranoiacs or schizophrenics in position where they can destroy any doctor who’d prescribe them real treatments or even actually try to FIND said treatments.
 
On top of SRS being lobotomy-tier response that is twice as lethal as the most lethal real emergency surgeries, 41/58% vs ~20%.  
Yes. Honk honk, motherfucker, we’re full steam ahead in the clown world.
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Well yeah, but right now they’re wearing the opposite colors.
 
It becomes even funnier if you know that “anti” didn’t originally mean “opposite”, it means “in stead”, “similar to”, “replacement”. Antichrist is the figure that comes instead of real Christ. Antihero is someone who’s similar to a hero but isn’t quite one. Antifascists are replacement fascists.
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@Barhandar  
More to the point, calling your group “Anti-Fascist Action” doesn’t magically make you the good guys, and everyone you punch a Nazi.
 
Personally, I tend to look at it as more of an, “antimatter to the matter of fascism” kind of way, given their behavior.
 
And it’s not like they’re even fighting fascists these days – Germany, 1930-1933 I’ll give them, but even then they just turned out to be useful idiots for the NSDAP…
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Obligatory “tautological templar”.  

 
I also have the logo-tipping-glasses-with-a-grin version (i.e. “when your atrocities are justified because your logo says “antifaschistiche aktion”) but can’t be bothered uploading it for a hotlink.  
They also tend to justify it with “the ends justify the means”, completely missing that A, the original was “ACHIEVED ends justify the means”, and B, their means do not, have never, and will never result in the ends they claim to want.  
And it’s not like they’re even fighting fascists these days — Germany, 1930-1933 I’ll give them, but even then they just turned out to be useful idiots for the NSDAP…
Have they? I’ll need to brush up on history, because what I remember is “Hitler amasses an army of thugs not unlike democrats with antifa today, gets surprised by being democratically-ish elected, purges the police guess what ACAB is? to replace it with his personal enforcers the SS, purges the internal opposition during the Night of Long Knives, and then it’s Nazi Germany in full.
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@Barhandar  
OG AntiFA was the militant wing of the German Communist Party. Didn’t last all of three years before both were outlawed after the NSDAP election win.  
A not-insignificant part of the Nazi platform, as far as I know, was putting an end to AntiFA riots; turns out terrorism only gives ammo to your enemy…
 
I assume the “army of thugs” refers to the SA, which was later purged, disbanded and replaced by the SS.
 
Not perfectly analogous to the current situation, to be sure, but there are concerning similarities.  
And I can definitely see the Dems turning on AntiFA when they’ve outlived their usefulness.
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A not-insignificant part of the Nazi platform, as far as I know, was putting an end to AntiFA riots; turns out terrorism only gives ammo to your enemy…
You can hack that system by starting the riots and terrorism yourself, because the population is seemingly foolish enough to not see the obvious.
Soddy

Honestly, if you didn’t see the Harris/Biden admin going full Fascist coming, you just haven’t been paying attention to, among other things, the election “fortifying,” the creepy cult of personality that’s totally spontaneously sprung up around Biden, the Democrats being the party every self-declared Socialist politician in the US is in, and Fascism being the logical end point of Socialism…
 
I don’t really see them going ‘full fascist’ - they have no respect for family or country, and instead fully desire Globo-Homo totalitarian rule. They want a nation of obedient little consumers who will live in shitty conditions and provide cheap labor; it’s essentially the same goal that the Communist leaders had, but with a veneer of liberalism and consumerism.
 
One of their main methods of doing this is through mass immigration and the destruction of White identity. The mass-immigration, of course, is to provide cheap labor and people who will be perfectly happy to go along with their goals. Meanwhile, they shame White people for our history, culture, etc, and insist on pushing non-White culture in its place while glorifying all non-White history and peoples. They continue with the narrative of ‘White Oppressor’, pushing for more and more transfers of wealth from Whites to non-Whites, making it harder for your average White man to raise a family while making it easier for non-Whites to make families on our dime. They likewise push for race-mixing; you won’t find modern movies without a race-mixing White person, despite Whites actually having strong racial preference for other white people when it comes to dating and such - again, their goal is to wipe out a strong White culture. This is all done by these elites in power with the end-goal of a low-IQ, rootless, consumer society that will obey their whims.
 
 
This… is about as far as ‘fascism’ as you can get. On the contrary, Fascism generally supports the following:
 
Pro-Natal for their people - Nazi Germany, for instance, gave subsidies to German families, and forgave portions of it based on how many kids they had. These fuckers want the native Whites to stop breeding (or breed with other races), and actively transfer funds away from them to give to foreign peoples living on our soil.
 
Anti-Degeneracy campaigns and policy - again, Nazi Germany prohibited transgender propaganda and surgery and such, and enacted policies against homosexuality; these neo-liberals, instead, promote transgenderism for children and kids twerking in front of gay dudes, to say nothing of funding and support of transgender surgery.
 
Nationalized Banks - Germany was getting financially fucked after the first world war, and so they wanted to handle their own money supply - and, thus, they had nationalized banks rather than letting the international banks continue to fleece them. Meanwhile, Biden and Company (and indeed the Republican party too) are both sucking the cocks of these international financiers.
 
 
It’s very easy to fling around ‘fascism’ - we’re taught to see it as the utmost evil, the Very Worst Thing, from an early age. That’s because, to the people who wish to push this Neo-Liberal, Globo-Homo agenda, Fascism is probably the greatest threat to their power.
 
 
 
This is their end-goal - and this sure as fuck is not ‘fascism’.
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and instead fully desire Globo-Homo totalitarian rule
desire totalitarian rule
totalitarian
What do you think fascism is?  
Totalitarianism is the core. Everything else is just window dressing.
Soddy

and instead fully desire Globo-Homo totalitarian rule
desire totalitarian rule
totalitarian
What do you think fascism is?
Totalitarianism is the core. Everything else is just window dressing.
 
 
Fascism =/= Totalitarian. They are different concepts.
 
Are we going by the actual practices of, say, Nazi Germany? In that case, the Nazis were not totalitarian; they had some market controls, sure, and some strong laws against degeneracy and miscegenation, but beyond that the average German was quite happy under the party - and I don’t imagine them being very happy if the government was ‘Totalitarian’. The same applies to Mussolini.
 
Are we going by what modern, self-proclaimed Fascists want? That’s even less totalitarian - and indeed, less totalitarian than what we have now. Right now we have a government that’s a bitch to the global corporations and businesses, and anyone who opposes them or dares to (((name them))) is shitcanned - their bank accounts are closed, their social media is closed down, and they frequently get their devices and such seized by police under the most spurious circumstances. Meanwhile, what do these ‘Fascists’ want to do? They want to re-patriate non-Whites to their countries of origin, reclaim these globalist corporations, and basically make government run for and by the people instead of this globo-homo nightmare. Would there probably be a social safety net, like welfare and healthcare? Sure - and, like most White nations, that can work out OK. Would there be laws against promoting homosexuality, transgenderism, drugs, etc? Yes - and considering how hard our government fights to shove the former two down our throats and promote them as normal, and their shady FBI shenanigans with the latter, this is an improvement. But this is quite far from ‘totalitarian’ - especially when they’re pushing for the sort of normal and healthy society that most White people really crave.
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They just dictated who could and couldn’t do business and with whom, and whom you could and couldn’t associate with, like totalitarians do, but they totes weren’t totalitarian, honest!
I find your… reasoning… spurious.
 
but beyond that the average German was quite happy under the party - and I don’t imagine them being very happy if the government was ‘Totalitarian’. The same applies to Mussolini.
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea reports all of their citizens – except the few traitors corrupted by westerners – are as happy as can be.  
I guess DPRK isn’t totalitarian either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Soddy

They just dictated who could and couldn’t do business and with whom, and whom you could and couldn’t associate with, like totalitarians do, but they totes weren’t totalitarian, honest!
I find your… reasoning… spurious.
 
And I find your edit ‘quite spurious’ too. The average German’s life was objectively better with the Nazis in charge.
 
 
but beyond that the average German was quite happy under the party - and I don’t imagine them being very happy if the government was ‘Totalitarian’. The same applies to Mussolini.
The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea reports all of their citizens – except the few traitors corrupted by westerners – are as happy as can be.
I guess DPRK isn’t totalitarian either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Except that is what the people who lived through it generally said so; indeed, the average German was shocked and horrified when they were told that they were supposedly host to extermination camps. Now, why would a people be shocked and horrified to learn about something like that, if they were living under tyranny themselves - if they didn’t like their government? Fuck’s sake, you tell your average leftist that they’re executing every mexican illegally entering the country at the border, they won’t be shocked and horrified; they’ll fucking believe you. No; the average German was quite happy under the Reich.
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Now, why would a people be shocked and horrified to learn about something like that, if they were living under tyranny themselves
Ever heard of this little thing called propaganda? The Nazis were rather good at it.  
Suppression of information is also quite a bit easier when the state has direct control over all media, so no duh the average German was completely oblivious to the camps. Out of sight, out of mind, and all that jazz.
 
Fuck’s sake, you tell your average leftist that they’re executing every mexican illegally entering the country at the border, they won’t be shocked and horrified; they’ll fucking believe you.
Actually, they probably wouldn’t anymore because – speaking of propaganda – Democrat media would never make such a claim with Orange Man out of office, and Snopes would immediately deboonk such claims under Harris-Biden, and thus you’d just be a crazy racist QAnon Trumpist for making the claim.  
Notice how “kids in cages” vanished from the news cycle overnight, despite the number of children detained at the border increasing due to the higher number of people attempting to cross the border illegally? 🤔
Soddy

Now, why would a people be shocked and horrified to learn about something like that, if they were living under tyranny themselves
Ever heard of this little thing called propaganda? The Nazis were rather good at it.
Suppression of information is also quite a bit easier when the state has direct control over all media, so no duh the average German was completely oblivious to the camps. Out of sight, out of mind, and all that jazz.
 
So wait - propaganda convinced the Germans that they were living comfortably (pre-war, at any rate), and that they were better off without the people pushing degenerative practices on their people? Is that what you think? Seems pretty dubious, tbh.
 
…Have you considered applying that to your own understanding of ‘Nazis’? That, perhaps, in the years since the fall of the Reich, you are subject to far more intense and well-practiced propaganda, propaganda which has been inculcated over generations rather than just a decade or two, and which has been practiced in a far more scientific, driven manner? That there may be a reason you are taught to hate the Nazis far worse than the Communists, despite the Communists being worse in every way (death tolls, means, motives, etc)? That, perhaps, you have been lied to?
 
 
Fuck’s sake, you tell your average leftist that they’re executing every mexican illegally entering the country at the border, they won’t be shocked and horrified; they’ll fucking believe you.
Actually, they probably wouldn’t anymore because – speaking of propaganda – Democrat media would never make such a claim with Orange Man out of office, and Snopes would immediately deboonk such claims under Harris-Biden, and thus you’d just be a crazy racist QAnon Trumpist for making the claim.
Notice how “kids in cages” vanished from the news cycle overnight, despite the number of children detained at the border increasing due to the higher number of people attempting to cross the border illegally? 🤔
 
That does not change my point in the slightest. You assert that The Nazis were totalitarian; well, either the German people were quite happy and content with a totalitarian regime that controlled their lives from top to bottom, or they were discontent with it - after all, that’s what totalitarian means, total control of people’s lives and livelihoods.
 
Those are the two possibilities if the Reich was totalitarian; either the Germans were happy with totalitarianism, or they were discontent with it. But then, if they were discontent with it, why would they be surprised when, after the war, they were told of the supposed atrocities committed by the Nazi party? Again, the average Leftist was discontent with Trump, despite any real totalitarian practices on his part; and if they were told, ‘Yes, he actually set up DEATH CAMPS for brown people!’, you and I both know the average leftist would believe it wholeheartedly. Why should we think that people who are actually oppressed by a totalitarian government would be any more surprised? Yet we do not see this; so one of those possibilities is thrown out.
 
We are left with either the Germans being remarkably content with a totalitarian Nazi regime that controls their lives (a dubious prospect at best)… Or the Nazi government was not totalitarian.
 
 
 
 
@IvanSatoru  
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>the average German
Yeah screw everyone else
 
Unironically yes. Why, do you think a government should have its focus on other peoples? We can see the result of that sort of policy; mass immigration, destruction of culture and society, a loss of social cohesion, and the constant lowering of the quality of life for all. Thanks, but I would prefer a government that is exceedingly chauvinistic towards its own people than one that opens its veins to the sewage of the world.
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So wait - propaganda convinced the Germans that they were living comfortably
Yes.  
Conditioning people to accept their condition is indeed one of the uses of propaganda.  
North Korea does it, China does it, the Soviet Union did it, etc etc.
 
 
NO U
How compelling.
 
 
either the German people were quite happy and content with a totalitarian regime that controlled their lives from top to bottom, or they were discontent with it
Well, yeah.  
Either North Koreans are happy with their lives because they don’t know any better and the regime has convinced them the rest of the world is worse off, or they’re not happy with it.
 
 
Why should we think that people who are actually oppressed by a totalitarian government would be any more surprised?
You do know oppression doesn’t always manifest itself openly as a whip and a cudgel, and evil doesn’t necessarily reveal itself by twirling its mustache at you while cackling maniacally, right?  
“Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked.”
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Yes.
Conditioning people to accept their condition is indeed on of the uses of propaganda.
North Korea does it, China does it, the Soviet Union did it, etc etc.
Dems do it too, what with “living in a ghetto and being filthy is totally great and must be praised guys!”.
Soddy

So wait - propaganda convinced the Germans that they were living comfortably
Yes.
Conditioning people to accept their condition is indeed on of the uses of propaganda.
North Korea does it, China does it, the Soviet Union did it, etc etc.
 
Wow, truly amazing that they were able to do that in a short… What, 15 years or so? Absolutely amazing that they could convince the populace to accept totalitarianism in that short amount of time .
 
 
 
NO U
How compelling.
 
Yeah, good try there. Come at me with something of substance besides editing my shit to make strawmen?
 
 
 
either the German people were quite happy and content with a totalitarian regime that controlled their lives from top to bottom, or they were discontent with it
Well, yeah.
Either North Koreans are happy with their lives because they don’t know any better and the regime has convinced them the rest of the world is worse off, or they’re not happy with it.
 
Except NK still exists today, and even those who flee and still fear for the lives of their families often tell of the atrocities committed by the NK government, and the NK government has existed for generations at this point. The Nazi party, on the other hand, was supported by the German people, and honestly pretty good for the German people, and a mere 15 years of propaganda wouldn’t have been possible to convince them that totalitarianism was a good thing - again, unless what they wanted was ‘totalitarianism’, and that’s what made them really happy.
 
 
Why should we think that people who are actually oppressed by a totalitarian government would be any more surprised?
You do know oppression doesn’t always manifest itself openly as a whip and a cudgel, and evil doesn’t necessarily reveal itself by twirling its mustache at you while cackling maniacally, right?
“Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked.”
 
So it’s totalitarian, but the vast majority of people just run their lives free of government intervention and do what they naturally want to do - raise families, build communities, etc… There’s no open whip and cudgel (as there is in today’s society when you, say, insist there are only two genders, or point out racial disparities), there’s no people gloating and cackling over their suppression of you and your kin (as is the case with people crowing over the ‘end of whiteness’ and such, in our news- and social-media)… Gosh, and it only took 15 years to ‘hoodwink’ those ‘poor oppressed German people’ into liking ‘it’, whatever ‘it’ is… And the society that such a ‘totalitarian’ system made was a functional, strong society that took the entire world to bring down, as opposed to this dysfunctional, degenerating, broken society where you can’t say a tranny faggot is a tranny faggot, you can’t point out that 13 do 50, you cannot name (((them))) without having your entire life ruined…
 
Man, you’re making a pretty strong case for Totalitarian-Fascism! Can we have Fascism now, plz? I’d much prefer that to the Totalitarian-Fagism we’re living under now =D
Soddy

Yes.
Conditioning people to accept their condition is indeed on of the uses of propaganda.
North Korea does it, China does it, the Soviet Union did it, etc etc.
Dems do it too, what with “living in a ghetto and being filthy is totally great and must be praised guys!”.
 
Who’s living in the ghetto and thinking it’s totally great, though? Is it White people? Or is it… Non-white people, while White people actively move away from such situations? Moreover, what do we hear from those Ghettos?
 
“Gibs me more, whitey!”
 
Sounds like those ‘ghettos’ are working as intended for those who made them =3
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