G5 discussion thread

@Twiface
I like the theory that the Equestria of FiM has a realistic fading of glory and rebirth of civilization thousands of years later. The actual show they gave us isn’t that.

Now that MYM is over I am confident in saying: Sparky single-handedly ruined G5.
Why would you make the annoying sidekick non-character the chosen one‽
They even had perfect moment to get rid of him. The villain is defeated; the dragons are safe; just send him away with them. But no.

I did kind of like the auroricorns. Probably won’t ever watch this series again, though.

@Fleur de Lis
You watched it in its entirety? I dipped out… I don’t even remember. After LanternGate, I think.

I got around to finishing MYM today. I haven’t been watching TYT.

I prefer PigGate.

G5 could have been based if it had leaned into the backstory. When season 8 came out, I joked that Twilight had set Equestria on the path to a cultural victory over the rest of their world by mentally converting the young of the other countries into ponies. Turned out what she was doing was astroturfing multiculturalism onto Equestria, and importing her pony replacement population through the school. Then a post season 9 comic established that she took Equestria’s magic away because things got so divided under her. Evidently, based on the fact that pony society was reduced to three tiny enclaves in a small corner on the West coast, that left ponies unable to defend their own country, and they lost it to Twilight’s invaders. Twilight in the later material had an out group bias that is unique to left leaning whites, and chose to burn down her country because her social agenda was failing.

G5 could have been a story about pony kind rediscovering their self-worth. Instead, the whole thing played out as another parable about inclusivity, complete with a Pinochet-looking figure playing the first bad guy, so that you knew which kind of pulling together was the one being endorsed.

@ANoobis
The comics gave us more zeeb drawings. They also undermined the happy ending of FiM far more than G5 did. FiM’s Equestria should’ve collapsed after 500 years or something. A natural decline of empire.

I think works of cultural significance should be sealed from people using the IP for ten years after them finishing to protect them from these acts of cultural vandalism, where spiteful and jealous people come along to tear down something people like to try and make their dog shit look better by comparison.

@πʊßƛįϰ
In a Spenglerian sense, the Equestria we see in the show is probably at or past its peak and we merely witness the early stages of its degeneration.

@RavenandWritingDesk
I don’t think that would necessarily work. Long dormant IPs get resurrected for bastardization all the time. The cultural significance is what makes them a target no matter how old they are.

Yeah but the distance makes it harder to tarnish the original; for example no one feels less passionate about Star Trek TNG and DS9 no matter how many times Discovery tries to rewrite the shows lore to diminish the agency and importance of classic characters in favour their new more ‘diverse’ characters. Tolkien fans out right laughed in the face of Rings of Power and most refuse to acknowledge it exists.

However Star Wars and Dr Who which have been consistently active has morphed into a hatedom where more people are talking about how the shitty retcons and clumsy finger painted messaging has made it impossible to enjoy the originals anymore than how good some original content was.

MLP is a bit of an odd duck because most people consider fan content like Past Sins, Fallout Equestria and Background Pony more cannon than Starlight Glimmer, their used to ignoring lackluster official content. I’d recommend Eternal or Archmage over G5 any day as a continuation of the story.

Bullshit, there’s been plenty of very good fanfics that show how Equestria could of industrialised and began integrating other species like Changelings and Dragons while maintaining their cultural cohesion and national identity. A distant future where Twilight rules over a modernised nation in a more interconnected world that is welcoming to other nations but meaningful distinct is a proven concept.

The problem is there is currently a skill drain happening in corporate media because they have got tired of dealing with creatives who are temperamental, prone to scandal and inconsistent in output and tried to replace them with people that look good in marketing material, do what their told and accommodate the marketing department at every turn.

The problem is these people are as creative as a jar of mayonnaise and have only been taught to regurgitate superficial talking points that get them social approval. So all that get produced is social capital propaganda pieces that exist for the assemblers to brag about at bougie parties in gated communities, like ‘art films’ no one is expected to watch the shit, their just props for the ‘artists’ use to complete their aesthetic and for decadent rich people to throw money at so they can claim to be cultured.

Shove it infront of a audience of poor people wanting to be entertained of course it’s going to go badly, the whole modern art conceit is that its all meritless garbage that just exists as a prop for social and financial transactions.

@RavenandWritingDesk
The fundamental problem is that the writers are incapable of making anypony other than the designated protagonist make important decisions. Why can’t Equestria have enjoyed an integrated golden age as the ponies civilized the other sapient species, then had its natural decline due to Twilight gradually losing connection to the Elements or whatever 500 years later? Because the writers wanted there to be a decision made to remove magic.

What exactly do you mean by ‘Starlight Glimmer’ being canon? Nobody had any issue with her in ‘The Cutie Map.’
If you think that ‘The Cutie Re-Mark’ made her a villain sue (which I agree with), most bronies loved that episode because of the alternate universes, and it was popular enough to spawn an enormous Fallout Equestria-style fandom-within-a-fandom. If you hate her ‘reformation’ at the end of it, most people considered her fully redeemed by the end of Season 6.

Few people hate Starlight outside of 4chan.

There still seem to be enough loyal fans to keep both of these franchises going, and the hatedoms generate enough brand awareness to keep them culturally relevant.

@Twiface
Glimmer. I hate Glimmer. No doubt about it. Worst character of the show, without question.

@UrbanMysticDee
You’re the last person on this site I ever thought would say that.

Sunset Shimmer is better.

@RavenandWritingDesk
I agree, but most bronies seem to view them as equals.

@Twiface
I have been extremely consistent in my hatred of Glimmer these past 4 years. Every opportunity I get to say how much I hate Glimmer I say it. Glimmerbuse is the only abuse tag I watch. When Glimmer was added to the show and then shoved down our throats that was when the show turned to shit. She’s worse than Peggy Hill. At least Peggy gets punished for being a cunt by getting scammed out of her money and falling out of an airplane. Glimmer tries to destroy all of existence and is rewarded for it because Friendship is Retarded.

>Friendship is Retarded.

Would be a great name for a series starring Starlight Glimmer.

@RavenandWritingDesk
Still not gonna watch EqG. No hooves = no watch.

@πʊßƛįϰ
Understandable.

Most of it is boring slice-of-life shit, and the ‘Equestrian magic is leaking into the human world!’ gimmick gets old fast. If you just have a general idea of who the noteworthy characters are, then you’re good to go.

EQG is 6
RR is an 8
FG 7
CE 6

All the shorts were kinda mid, which is a shame because Reformed Shimmer was a really good character and really should of been brought in to the main series.

Instead of the school of friendship bollocks having Twilight trying to teach Star Pupil Shimmy, Unstable Apocalypse maker Glimmy and walking troll face meme Trix would of been a lot better.