Edit: Whups, didn’t see the mods speaking mod-ly. I’ll take it to the politics thread.

@Sapphie  
Considering the current topic of the discussion, https://ponybooru.org/forums/dis/topics/derpibooru-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-relief-thread would be a better fit :V
 
 
@Psy Key  
Response here.

Yeah, might as well say this now. If you guys want to continue this discussion, please do so here (I guess that’s the appropriate thread?)

@SpaceLilyAlt  
At the top, click the button that says ‘unsubscribe’.

is there anyway to disable notifications on a post
 
these B a s e d comments are making my brain hurt

@EverfreeEmergencies  
What makes me lean towards them being staff, at one point or another, is that they shill for both Furbooru and Derpibooru. I don’t know of any person who would shill for both sites, or would have a reason to, besides my ex and Teaspoon. His responses are very similar to how Teaspoon responds; with very little evidence and an ‘I’m an arbiter of truth’ aura about him.
 
I know for a fact that both Teaspoon and my ex live in Germany, and are largely unaware of how the US works, but both would constantly talk about the US like it could do nothing right, and Europe was superior. My ex’s fear, when visiting the US for BC on multiple occasions, was “I don’t want to be shot by the police.” When asked, he had a preconceived notion that police would shoot a Russian because “your police are racist.” Teaspoon has, much like my ex, had similar notions about the US in general.
 
If they are just some person, then it’s a really weird shilling mission they are on. I’ll admit that I shill for Ponybooru, but my main reason is because I believe people deserve better than Derpibooru and it’s basically the same site with better rules and better staff. I see no reason someone would shill for Furbooru and Derpibooru unless they were specifically trying to say that all that should matter to users is site traffic and user count, which my ex constantly did, for no reason. They even tried to say that alt-boorus would crash and burn because, “We have the artists and the traffic and that’s all that matters.”
 
I don’t know a single other person, besides my ex or Teaspoon, both of which were Derpi staff members and are the staff of Furbooru, who would shill for both sites.

@Psy Key  
Staff? Doubtful. A furfag who’s only here for the purpose of shilling derpi? Definitely.

@TheGlitchedWolf  
>other ways to restrain someone  
Name them, smart ass. Prove that it would’ve worked. Prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the police are guilty. You just sound like a derpi mod retard.
 
@TheGlitchedWolf  
>Derpibooru is better in site traffic  
Who the fuck cares? That’s how we know you’re a derpi staffer. I’ve dated one. Couldn’t go 5 minutes without talking about derpi’s site traffic or donations. Never once said a damn thing about user experience and being fair and respecting the rights of the individual.
 
It’s time you went back to Derpi. A cancerous place; where you belong.
 
It’s also interesting how you try to hide that you’re a derpi staffer, yet you’re directly involved with Furbooru, which I know of only 3 people who work on it specifically. Teaspoon, Luna, and one other person I’m forgetting at the moment.
 
You’re too calm to be Teaspoon, and if you’re my ex you’re definitely sinking to all new lows. To think being trans and having sex with me wasn’t already low enough. If you’re the person I’m forgetting, then be it well. You obviously aren’t important enough to be remembered, and I hope your family treats you much the same.
 
@Sapphie  
If you do, by all means. I’m eager to see how the derpi staffer puts up an argument. So far, I’m enjoying myself.

@Sapphie  
Why cut the show short?

what the fuck is going on here

I feel like I should probably tell people to move this to a separate thread, huh…

@Officer Hotpants  
no u pink horse lookin ass

@SpaceLilyAlt  
No. Sounds gay, though.

@Humble Oriathan  
Also that, yeah. The only thing prosecution has brought was sob stories from (often BLATANTLY biased) bystanders and other unrelated people. But at least that allowed the defense to bring actual evidence (autopsy report, Floyd’s criminal history, Floyd’s HEALTH history, it being SECOND time he did the completely retarded “take ALL the drugs to not be busted for possession and trafficking” - he survived the first time, etc). The trial ending in “guilty for both intentional and unintentional killing of exact same person despite zero evidence” (oh and feds planning to arrest and throw Chauvin into prison anyway if he would be found not guilty) means that 1, it was pure kangaroo court, and 2, USA’s justice system is completely and irrevocably fucked, both because it’s controlled by corrupt scum and utterly biased, and because it’s PRECEDENT BASED, meaning from now on you can be convicted for murder if you’re found to have been touching or restraining a junkie at the moment of his death.
 
Read: good samaritian laws are tossed, police actually trying to restrain obvious junkies is also tossed, they’ll either ignore them (utterly terrible for civilians) or start shooting them outright (provokes an even bigger stink from Criminal Endorsement Movement) to at least get imprisoned for a REAL crime instead of a fabricated one because a bunch of soibois with a few rich blacks (and a number of black soibois like that “AR recoil will knock you over!” one) cried about it, and it’s profitable for the ruling class to have people accept living in shitty conditions (ghettos) and work for a pittance.

yes

REMEMBER THAT SHOW ABOUT PONEES?

@TheGlitchedWolf  
>Fact is, George Floyd died because the cop was kneeling on his neck
 
Well by all means, show us the evidence that proves that, because the prosecution in the trial couldn’t. They kept moving the goal posts to the point where one of the so called medical “expert” tried to argue that the carbon monoxide from the car exhaust could’ve suffocated him even though the autopsy report said nothing about carbon monoxide being found in Floyd’s system. Not the mention that none of the “experts” examined the body themselves. They just wasted the court’s time hypothesizing how George’s blood flow COULD’VE been restricted.

@TheGlitchedWolf  
It takes ~3 minutes to suffocate (when not talking) and 5 seconds to get knocked out by blood restriction. Floyd blabbered for the whole 9+ minutes and died to his heart being stopped by drugs he himself took, not by any kind of oxygen deprivation or CO2 excess. You want an innocent thrown in prison because you have zero understanding of biology, physiology, restraining criminals or ability to read autopsy results.
 
In fact, criminal scum loudly lie that they “can’t breathe” expecting exactly this kind of gullible fools to interfere and protect them from being arrested, so said criminals can go on ruining more lives with drugs, arson, robberies and burglaries, and outright murder.
 
 
P.S. To extend your analogy, imprisoning Chauvin would be the same as throwing you in prison for murder because you were in the same room as your grandmother when she finally died to old age.

@TheGlitchedWolf  
That’s exactly what I’d expect Luna to say.

@TheBridge  
Look up what someone who doesn’t feel pain (e.g. literal mentally ill people going berserk) can physically do. For reference, it’s “tossing people much larger than themselves around like ragdolls”.
 
What the police did is 100% justified, all four kneelings and all. They’ve restrained a physically bulky, resisting arrest, potentially violent they know or should have looked up that he’s got a history of arrests and convictions, including one for armed robbery suspect visibly off his rockers on painkillers in a way that minimizes harm to both him and themselves.  
They could not reasonably affect that he had lethal amount of painkillers in his system, or that he took incompatible drugs to not get busted for trafficking, or that he was taking said incompatible drugs for long enough that his heart was absolutely fucked up. And in fact, with how fucked up he was by his life choices, I kinda doubt he’d be able to be saved even if the arrest was happening in a dialysis room combined with life support apparatus.
 
And if you keep insisting on following the absolutely bogus “breathing obstruction” claim (was claiming before kneeling because common criminal tactic AND fentanyl overdose symptom, can’t talk while actually suffocating, the only physical damage in the area is from resuscitation efforts also no you can’t strangle someone without damaging tissues) go get kneeled on in exactly the same manner.
 
@Psy Key  
tl;dr: “you’re not experienced enough to be a valid judge of whether the police used excessive force in this case”.  
>If Floyd would’ve cooperated, would he be dead right now?  
11 ng/mL of fentanyl in bloodstream (statistical average at time of death of various junkies: 3 ng/mL) is not compatible with continued bodily existence.
 
@Anonymous #E7D2  

@TheBridge  
And that’s your opinion, and it’s perfectly fine to have. We’re quite capable of having disucussions on the various topics surrounding the incident, including on if police are too brutal or not. However, I believe it needs to be said that you, and likely others much like yourself, assume yourselves to be arbiters in how police should deliver restraint and punishment. I think this is something ridiculous because, much like a behaved child who witnesses another child receive any sort of punishment, the immediate response is to prevent that punishment further. Most, if not all, children will often fail to understand the reasons behind punishments, and lack the knowledge to properly deduce such responses. This is because punishment and restraint are both learned concepts, and neither can be successfully taught without first being in the position of the punished or restrained.
 
I am curious if you would’ve reacted the same way, or used more force to restrain an individual of Floyds size and physical capability? The question is rhetorical, of course. Tests done in the last 200 years on this very topic have concluded that, regardless of the topic in question, those who lack any understanding but believe themselves to have better knowledge and judgement will often profess their utter skill and understanding in a way that, to those who truly understand, is beyond foolish and worthy of a darwin award, should the laws of nature treat you as favorably as a bird with a malformed wing.
 
The phenomena, which both you and I have experienced and are guilty of, is the dunning-kruger effect. It states, in laymens terms, that one can be very dull on a subject and believe they not only know the answer on a topic within the subject, but will likely profess this to others in a very self-aggrandized way.
 
I, of course, speak only from certainty based on the knowledge I know for a fact I have. Knowledge I have gained from witnessing that which you would flee immediately from. Police are so pussywhipped these days, and problems go unsolved, and others arise from those problems, because police lack the resources and techniques to properly prevent innocent people from being harmed by criminals. Could it possibly be that your average citizen understands the concept of law and order so greatly that being in the position of interacting with the police brings dread not because they dislike the police, but because they don’t want to make a fools mistake?
 
We live in a nation that is so great in some groups that the utter concept of punishment and restraint becomes foreign, so when witnessed in fair amounts, you see nothing but terror. Like a boy that has never seen a cow killed for it’s meat, you fear the very job that allows you to live within luxury.
 
Tell me. If Floyd would’ve cooperated, would he be dead right now?

@TheGlitchedWolf  
This means nothing. We’re well aware of how many alts the Derpi staff have.