Barhandar 
"[@NorthyDreams":](/forums/dis/topics/derpibooru-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-relief-thread?post_id=62582#post_62582
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> You are simply wrong.[/bq]
k, you're allowed to continue "tolerating" the hypothetical people who keep smearing shit over places you like because you're "morally superior" and "above accepting their ideas".
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> and presumes additional action beyond the toleration of the existence and speech of the other party[/bq]
It presumes_*absence_* of action. Absence of, say, purging offtopic from a thread, letting the offtopic constitute more and more of said thread until you either take the oh-so-intolerant action of purging it, or the thread dies because everyone else left (i.e. the fate of several discussion threads on derpi during the debacle, buried by circular offtopic by latecomer et al).
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> "If shitty people feel welcome you fail" is censorious, "If good people feel unwelcome" is feelings over facts in the exact same way that they act that caused the exodus from derpi in the first place. Good people and shitty people must be welcome to voice their opinions and be roundly criticized, equally, for those ideas.[/bq]
This is especially hilarious considering how_*criticizing shitty people ('s ideas) tends to make them feel unwelcome_*.
[bq@Anonymous #428A](/forums/dis/topics/derpibooru-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-relief-thread?post_id=62589#post_62589)
Fucking ninjas.
> Tolerance =/= Acceptance of their ideas.[/bq]
Irrelevant. Once there's enough of "them", your voice will be drowned out. And if you keep being "oh-so-tolerant", there_*will_* get enough of "them" eventually. As a practical example, if you "tolerate" presence of disinterested-in-pony furries in your place that is dedicated to ponies, instead of either converting or ostracizing them, they'll create topics dip-furries are interested in, and eventually topics _*only_* dip-furries are interested in. This is how ponychan fell and became leftoid-furry-hipsterchan.
Oh, and speaking of facts and feelings? Humans aren't automatons. **Both** have to be accounted for, if you aim to be a forum or other public-conversation space.
[@NorthyDreams](/forums/dis/topics/derpibooru-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-relief-thread?post_id=62588#post_62588)
No they're not. You can't have your "tolerating someone's presence" and "don't give power to them" too. If you keep being all "people being tolerated totally cannot affect this place at all guize", **you WILL fail**.
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> You are simply wrong.
k, you're allowed to continue "tolerating" the hypothetical people who keep smearing shit over places you like because you're "morally superior" and "above accepting their ideas".
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> and presumes additional action beyond the toleration of the existence and speech of the other party
It presumes
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> "If shitty people feel welcome you fail" is censorious, "If good people feel unwelcome" is feelings over facts in the exact same way that they act that caused the exodus from derpi in the first place. Good people and shitty people must be welcome to voice their opinions and be roundly criticized, equally, for those ideas.
This is especially hilarious considering how
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Fucking ninjas.
> Tolerance =/= Acceptance of their ideas.
Irrelevant. Once there's enough of "them", your voice will be drowned out. And if you keep being "oh-so-tolerant", there
Oh, and speaking of facts and feelings? Humans aren't automatons. **Both** have to be accounted for, if you aim to be a forum or other public-conversation space.
[@NorthyDreams](/forums/dis/topics/derpibooru-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-relief-thread?post_id=62588#post_62588)
No they're not. You can't have your "tolerating someone's presence" and "don't give power to them" too. If you keep being all "people being tolerated totally cannot affect this place at all guize", **you WILL fail**.