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Anonymous #F509
I have sympathy for Marci but I think is rather naive on the nature of the Internet and copyright law. There is a chance of her being truly scummy but I think it is more of her being simply raised in a overly affirming society and being in that deviantart hugbox where “OC donot steel” is not a joke but a creed taken to a ridiculous level. You’re not allowed to negatively critique stuff, even politely anymore. A interesting ethical issue with this as I think this image only served to make things stupidly heated but I don’t think the image itself crosses any sort of moral line.
 
@Anonymous #271C  
We need more people like you to have reactions like this. You gathered information and tried to put it from her perspective aided by your own experience without fully taking her side, and still noting that it is a hard issue. I agree with you that a line should exist, but where it is I don’t know.
 
@Humble Oriathan  
If she saw it as a attack, can’t entirely blame her acting angry. Still, I think she has a mentality that is entitled so I’m not sure how it would’ve worked out with more civility but it was worth a shot.
Anonymous #271C
“Y’ALL NAZIS DEGENERATES ART THIEVES”, then it doesn’t matter whether they’re merely deluded or irrevocably scummy, they’re not open to dialogue either way.
 
Say, what if this person had dealt with blatant stealing of art and people being like this  
Or one user who seems to make a habit of messaging me, sometimes on different accounts to beg for free requests, then they vanish when I say I only do commissions.
the asshole had been selling my newest pixel art as “adoptables”, acting all smug and proud over the praise he was receiving for “his” skills and the reason why he was pushing me so hard to create new stuff was because he bragged a bit too much, also got too overconfident and assumed I was going to upload new stuff during this week, so genius made some hype about his upcoming new “adoptables”, then made a special pre-sale, nabbed a few gullible customers and then panicked after the days kept passing and he still had no new stuff to steal and give to his impatient customers.
 
I can imagine a person who has dealt with this could have a understandable negative reaction and I wouldn’t blame’em nor think they were necessarily delusional or completely wrong to be pissed at something like this, in principle. That is where I was coming from in holding back a little; I don’t know this artist’s background. I don’t know where she is coming from.
 
Now, honestly, that doesn’t make her in the right either. Upon reading through her posts here and on twitter in full. I do agree that she is acting awfully high and mighty over… traced SFM renders. Such nebulous concepts can not be owned.
Anonymous #E2E4
The line between someone who had a misunderstanding and poor communication leading to flaming tensions and just outright bad behavior can be hard to judge at times.
It’s pretty simple - if someone opens up with “Y’ALL NAZIS DEGENERATES ART THIEVES”, then it doesn’t matter whether they’re merely deluded or irrevocably scummy, they’re not open to dialogue either way.
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not slander people and demand the nonexistent “artist rights” over something public being shared on the internet (with credit).
 
Legally, they technically exist. With FiM it is a gray area. If someone, who say, coming from a environment like deviantart where they would have to deal with stuff, like color anon has detailed with here often and I can see a someone who is used to that trying to guard their artwork as best they can. Now, naturally, I don’t share that position, at least in full. The internet in effect has made such rights in practice unenforceable and counterproductive to a lot of our cultural production. If such rights were truly jealously guarded everything from our fandom to most memes would not exist because they often laugh at the face of such rights as written in the law. I was just trying to come from a position of understanding over immediate hostility.
 
artworks intended to antagonize shouldn’t be made, sure, but it’s one hell of a blurry line (that xppp1n is actively doing somersaults on).
 
It sure is! I can totally see us making that a rule and then that rule being completely taken advantage of by bad actors to remove legit criticism and mockery, because yes, even bitter mockery is often legit and people would take advantage of any principle against it and use it to silence
 
@Adan Druego  
I also agree with this in principle for sure. I am still trying to judge her behavior and I haven’t read all her posts here or on twitter. The line between someone who had a misunderstanding and poor communication leading to flaming tensions and just outright bad behavior can be hard to judge at times.
Anonymous #E2E4
@TheBridge  
Again, this image is the result of Marci throwing a tantrum. All she had to do to avoid this being created is to not slander people and demand the nonexistent “artist rights” over something public being shared on the internet (with credit).  
The moment anything goes public on the ‘net, you cannot control where it gets shared anymore. There is no right, there’s not even a privilege, there’s only personal respect for people that makes them not share stuff. And attacking sites that actually credit the artist, like boorus, means you rapidly lose said personal respect (also completely ignoring 9gag and the like which never credit the artist but always credit themselves).
 
And to think that even Twibooru is willing to entertain the option of removing the credit so that the artwork is not associated with someone (=searches don’t show them being on the site), but no, the attention seeker way is to give the site free advertisement instead.
 
@TheBridge  
Non-reactionary, aka unprovoked, artworks intended to antagonize shouldn’t be made, sure, but it’s one hell of a blurry line (that xppp1n is actively doing somersaults on).
Adán Druego
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Well, here’s one thing. When someone wants others to comply with their request, they should, at least, put on an agreeable demeanor. Don’t come in and start acting rude. Yes, it’s the artist’s work, so she has every right to decide what is and is not done with it, but still just treat others with respect and they are most likely to assist in the request.
 
I believe people refer to it as “optics” these days.
 
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@Humble Oriathan  
How do I put my opposition to this? I know of instances of people who would draw OCs of people, sometimes underage, to mess with and harass people, within and out of the fandom. I think there should be principle against this on some level because I do think a OC that represents someone is something a bit different then a general OC. Granted, I can also see how that can be completely abused.
 
She threw a tantrum because the mods won’t bend to her will even when they already explained how this isn’t breaking any rules.
 
From a human level I can understand the anger, at least here. I seen people submit to whinny idiots before and I have people toss away completely understandable concerns as just “reeeeeeeeeeeeeee” and I am trying to judge this situation myself and I haven’t fully come to a conclusion on how I feel on it all. I understand the dismissive reaction from some users as well as so many folks like this, legitimate reasons or not, use clauses and rules like this to get people to walk on eggshells and shield or ban criticism.
 
@Adan Druego  
A depiction of an OC is nothing compared to being removed from one’s home at gunpoint, shot at pointblank when they walk too slowly, herded into a transport and interned within a camp behind barbed wire fences and watchtower with riflemen ordered to shot to only wound gravely but not kill.
 
It shouldn’t be ever seen at that level, I completely agree on that at least.
 
Note: I am not accusing the artist of sexual harassment or harassment in general, I am just explaining where my concern like this comes from.
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@TheBridge  
With how childish she acted, I disagree. She threw a tantrum because the mods won’t bend to her will even when they already explained how this isn’t breaking any rules. That kind of behavior should not be rewarded with kindness or genuine concern. She needs to learn that the world doesn’t revolve around her.
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Lol this is the image that cause somuch butthurt? Original artist should grow up and act like an adult of her age. Its not like this edit was going to leave this site. But its obvious shes just doing it for attention and pity money.
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Civility is something I would like. This person I think is acting on genuine outrage on this. Imagine if something that was considered a representation of you was drawn as something that you find moral disgust with. I think many of you would answer that you wouldn’t care, and for some that would be a case but a lot have a breaking point. Some empathy is useful.
 
I don’t think genuine outrage alone is enough for removal on its own. If you gave in to simple outrage, to the cry of “I’m offended!” You can’t have a functioning society. Though if you were to ask me if I thought this image was 100% totally justified staying up because free speech (which it is from a legal standpoint) I am not so sure. Though I am still trying to put my thoughts together on this as I read through stuff and posting why I think that there is a case for removal is rather… complicated.
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You know, I just realized that this pony is shaded. It’s a nice detail and the mark of an artist who is willing to put forth that extra bit of effort.
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@Maulkin  
Please don’t continue to antagonize users and fan the flames of this discussion. You along with everyone in this comment section have been asked to keep things civil, and this is straying quite a bit from that.
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@ZizzyDizzyMC
Just close the comments, there is only signs of constant harassment here.
 
 
Rather bigoted of you to not support Melodious’s ‘coming out’ - and now you’re trying to stifle support for her brave choice to be a proud National Socialist?
 
Why, I bet you’re racist, too - probably use the ‘N’ word. Sorry bud, but only we can say “Nazi”, that’s OUR term.
Anonymous #E49C
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Now that’s a term I haven’t heard before. But it smells like adventure.
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Hey I’d like to remind folks that the image comment section is for discussion of the artwork. While topical discussion is generally allowed some of this would probably be better for the forums.
 
Also a reminder to please keep things civil, thank you. If things get out of hand the comments section may be temporarily locked.