Video Game Industry BS (AKA, GamerGate Thread 2.0)

@GuiltyGrimoire  
It started with Oblivion. All about it - the beginning of Radiant quest system (aka Buggerfall random-gen quests BUT WORSE), removal of physical damage types, simplifying weapon movesets, console-focused UI and horrendous autolevelling were all cost-cutting measures - it’s cheaper to develop a single console UI that can be made to barely work on PC, than to develop separate UIs, and autolevelling everywhere means no need to pay someone to put appropriate monster-lists everywhere (Morrowind had both separate UIs and sane autolevel).  
Then F3 came, a blatantly oblivion-with-guns shooter parasitic to Fallout ‘verse, with literally “stuff that makes people think it’s Fallout” all thrown in - hence water, Enclave, supermutants, Harold, etc etc. Extremely mediocre as a shooter with badly rehashed story.  
Come Skyrim, and the UI managed to become even shittier with 90% of space wasted, any semblance of RPG stats destroyed, completely shit combat balance due to stacking damage multipliers on bow combat and completely ridding magic of them, and bethesda always having tug-of-war combat system, with damage matched against HP and nothing more (which is also why legbreaking rifle was so ridiculously overpowered in F3, bethesda can’t into status effects that old fallouts were based on) as opposed to “who hits first” like Dark Souls or Gothic, or “status juggling” like Fallout 1/2 or roguelikes. And then bethesda had the gall to DEMAND PEOPLE GIVE THEM MONEY FOR STUFF OTHER PEOPLE (namely, modders) HAVE DONE.  
Then F4, which was parasitic for a parasite, with again rehashed antagonists, Radiant demonstrating why it’s complete shit aka ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP, their not-changed-since-Morrowind-despite-being-blatantly-unsuitable game engine shitting itself so they had to implement resetting locations, even more ruined lore, ruined weapons models and systems (good gunplay, but that’s because id done it, not bethesda), etc etc.
 
ALL of those were made by relying on modders to fix bethesda’s shit for free. And then they decided to make F76.  
An online game.  
Which cannot be modified.
 
Which was a spark needed for Bethesda’s crashing Hindenburg to come aflame - all their incompetence, all their shitty decisions and money-grubbing revealed all at once.

@Barhandar  
Wow, interesting indeed. I still like Oblivion more than Skyrim, damn Bethesda for removing the mysticism stat. I know that Fallout 3’s gunplay is often wonky or at least janky, but I don’t consider it to be a parasite just because none of the original teams from Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 were involved. As for the Enclave, I don’t see a problem with them being present in the game, though it would have rocked if there were at least some kind of faction system in it, indeed a missed opportunity.  
Skyrim Legendary Edition and Fallout 4 are where I more often than not agree. There was no legitimate reason to remove the Speech part of S.P.E.C.I.A.L stats which both Fallout 3 and New Vegas had. Radiant quests should have either been cut completely from the game during development, or replaced with something better, like some kind of procedural generation set of algorithms (think Elite: Dangerous procedural generation but in a post-apocalyptic setting) No comment for Fallout 76.

@Barhandar  
kk
 
In all seriousness, hit the nail on the head.  
@Absol95
 
I think speech was seen as a great (maybe even broken at times) pick for most builds, FNV had it be highly recommended by many especially.
 
For the speech system, FO3 was just ‘random chance with higher chance depending on speech’ that could simply be save scummed, 100 speech also wasn’t an insta-pass.
 
FNV removed the random chance, so 100 speech was always a pass. They improved it by adding more SPECIAL checks, but speech was just broken (final boss can be beaten using only speech, unlike 1 where the master required actual knowledge from locations and items). To be fair, FNV would have had more options if they had the time. I wonder why they didn’- oh, right.
 
FO4 replacing with Charisma was pretty dumb - sure speech was broken most of the time, but Charisma was the same thing. It seems like the remedy was ‘can’t beat everyone, half the checks are for caps’ which meant roleplaying as a good character in it for the people, especially if they’re a ‘lovable rogue’ or suave meant all they did with their quick tongues was ‘gimme mone’.
 
At least, that’s what I’ve gathered.

@Absol95  
It’s not about the teams, it’s about throwing brand recognition into one pile and pretending it’s a Fallout game. Oh and completely refusing to invest in creativity, e.g. putting the game somewhere where makes sense (Capital Wasteland got nuked to fuck in original lore), and creating their own factions instead of Enclave (destroyed), muties (stragglers only after Master was yeeted), and their own story instead of badly rehashing Fallout 1.
 
@GuiltyGrimoire  

 
F4’s dialogue system is worthless. It’s literally “Yes”, “Questioning Yes”, “Bethesda Brand Insulting Yes”, and “Later Yes” - you can see how bad it is with a mod to replace short words with what your character actually says, and quite a few of dialogues are literally identical for different options.
 
 
Said Bethesda Brand Arrogant Insults are also a problem of all their games since F3. NPCs constantly treat you like dirt (because the writers are incompetent, narcissistic fucks), best exemplified by Skyrim’s “BITCH WE’RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE YOU BUT THAT DOES NOT MATTER, GO KILL THE CHARACTER THAT HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT HELPFUL TO YOU WHILE WE WERE NOTHING BUT SHITTY TO YOU” Delphine ordering you to kill Paarthurnax, and F4’s ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP.

@Barhandar  
I’d take FO3 over FO4 any day, however. FNV was great, with little things that were pretty cool, like the few low INT choices, or hidden ones (did you know the ranger at nelson (I think) who mentions using a bunch of jet for his recruits? If you have loads of jet (like over 20) you can offer, he tells you it was a joke, and you gain NCR rep? Who knew that?
 
TFW you give a developer no time to make a game and they do a better job than you did in 5+ years.

@GuiltyGrimoire  
The only redeeming part in F4 is the gunplay (because, again, made by id instead of Bethesda). Which total conversion mods are there for it? I only know of FROST, and that’s a very different genre of game.

@Barhandar  
I haven’t played it in a bit, so I’m not sure about the TC mods. I know of the big story mods (e.g. Fusion City, Depravity) and they’re apparently pretty good.

@Barhandar  

I know it doesn’t change anything, but it felt pretty good to Unrelenting Force Delphine off of High Hrothgar.

I don’t know why they dropped the different ammo types for FO4. It seems like that would have fit even better with the gun system it has. Doubt it was for balancing reasons; if they wanted to balance the game, they wouldn’t have left the flamethrower mod for the plasma weapons (that thing is retarded powerful).
 
@Fleur de Lis  
You too, huh? I swear they programmed her to walk up to the edge just to make a tempting target.

@Barhandar  

 
For me there are other major redeeming parts of Fallout 4: the character creation features, and the plotlines that involve Synths, who are basically some kind of new breed of automaton. Shame that both the Railroad and the Institute weren’t given that much content that stayed in the final build. And if you really want to push it, the two story DLCs appear to be appealing. Especially Far Harbor.

@Officer Hotpants  
They’ve removed them because tOoCoMpLeX. Simplification of everything to save on costs + thinking the users are just as stupid as the developers and won’t understand the ammo differences.

@Absol95  
i did have a lot of fun on the “FAH HAHBAH” and “you complained that there where no evil path in the base game so here, get a raider path, on a kid’s amusement park, full of psychos”
 
if anything i found far harbor story to be better than the base one, wich is not a very high bar but still, i was engaged plus that one vault side quest

When do you think World or Warcraft started to go downhill? I never played it myself, but from what I’ve seen, its golden age was at the time of Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King. Subscriber count fluctuated up and down over the years, but it appears that the member count when plunged down some time after the initial release of Mists of Pandaria, but still held steady for the most part. It got even worse with whatever expansion succeeded Pandaria. Blizzard doesn’t care that much anymore about mechanics consistency nor how guilds ought to work. THEN came Warcraft 3 reforged. Its only a matter of time until WoW goes the way of Planetside 1 and H1Z1, it appears. I hope that the rumor that Blizzard and Activision will split off from each other will turn out to become true someday…

Oh boy, new drama! A bunch of self-professed commies try to wokesplain the wonders of guilt by association, communism, censorship, and calling anyone who refuses to bend over immediately a right-wing transphobic bigot… to a Czech anarcho-capitalist.

@Barhandar  
>R*ddit requires an account to expand reply chains on mobile  
I guess I get to stay sane this morning.

@EverfreeEmergencies  
All you need to know is THE response (to demanding kovarex stop linking to a guy guilty of not espousing far-left religious belief).  

Barhandar claims that Id software did partial work on Fallout 4, most of that being the gunplay. How so? While its true that Id software has been part of the Bethesda network of game companies since 2009, Bethesda got the rights to the Fallout IP before Id was acquired. I would like a source on that part about Id being involved in development.

@Barhandar  
Which the pussies deleted. I hope they didn’t enjoy having the creator drop in because I doubt he will again.

@Officer Hotpants  
They actually undeleted it when he rephrased it, even though the original was kept as part of the new post.  

Considering Reddit is retarded screeching SJW central? Pretty sure they’re happy at chasing him off. Too bad normal people disagree.

@Barhandar  
Yea I saw that shit from a Arch video. That was one of the most based reply ever.
 
They were trying to cancel culture an employee for quote tweeting Donald Trump on Twitter years ago. Then Kovarex went on r/Factorio to tell them to fucking eat sand and one of mods end of deleting that message. Far-left lunatics had a freaking meltdown on reddit and they search in the deepened of the internet to find something offensive Kovarex has said in the past. They find a 3 year old comment he’d made on reddit saying “Statutory Rape is a made up SJW term.” The reach these people have to do to justify their lynching LMAO.

@RD8K  
Ha. Wow. Some of the people I was looking at were using the fact that the guy apparently defended Arch in the past as “proof” that he’s all the -ists and -phobics in Google’s big dictionary of misused and non-existent words. Guess it’s Arch’s turn to return the favor.

The more I see companies and communities falling for the nazi boogeyman the less inclined I feel to keep paying for products.

@EverfreeEmergencies  
Hoist the colors, brother.
 
And remember, the actual nazis-slash-destruction-of-USSR is them. USA’s current cultural situation resembles both the 30’s in Germany and 80’s in USSR; smearing a specific race while diminishing and destroying former accomplishments of the country and its people.