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"[@Absol95":](/forums/dis/topics/video-game-industry-bs-aka-gamergate-thread-2-0?post_id=34410#post_34410
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It's not about the teams, it's about throwing brand recognition into one pile and pretending it's a Fallout game. Oh and completely refusing to invest in creativity, e.g. putting the game somewhere where makes sense (Capital Wasteland got nuked to fuck in original lore), and creating their own factions instead of Enclave (destroyed), muties (stragglers only after Master was yeeted), and their own story instead of badly rehashing Fallout 1.
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[@GuiltyGrimoire":](/forums/dis/topics/video-game-industry-bs-aka-gamergate-thread-2-0?post_id=34421#post_34421
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> FO4 replacing with Charisma was pretty dumb — sure speech was broken most of the time, but Charisma was the same thing. It seems like the remedy was 'can't beat everyone, half the checks are for caps' which meant roleplaying as a good character in it for the people, especially if they're a 'lovable rogue' or suave meant all they did with their quick tongues was 'gimme mone'.[/bq]
F4's dialogue system is worthless. It's literally "Yes", "Questioning Yes", "Bethesda Brand Insulting Yes", and "Later Yes" - you can see how bad it is with a mod to replace short words with what your character actually says, and quite a few of dialogues are literally identical for different options.
Said Bethesda Brand Arrogant Insults are also a problem of all their games since F3. NPCs constantly treat you like dirt (because the writers are incompetent, narcissistic fucks), best exemplified by Skyrim's "BITCH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE YOU BUT THAT DOES NOT MATTER, GO KILL THE CHARACTER THAT HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT HELPFUL TO YOU WHILE WE WERE NOTHING BUT SHITTY TO YOU" Delphine ordering you to kill Paarthurnax, and F4's ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP.
It's not about the teams, it's about throwing brand recognition into one pile and pretending it's a Fallout game. Oh and completely refusing to invest in creativity, e.g. putting the game somewhere where makes sense (Capital Wasteland got nuked to fuck in original lore), and creating their own factions instead of Enclave (destroyed), muties (stragglers only after Master was yeeted), and their own story instead of badly rehashing Fallout 1.
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[@GuiltyGrimoire
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> FO4 replacing with Charisma was pretty dumb — sure speech was broken most of the time, but Charisma was the same thing. It seems like the remedy was 'can't beat everyone, half the checks are for caps' which meant roleplaying as a good character in it for the people, especially if they're a 'lovable rogue' or suave meant all they did with their quick tongues was 'gimme mone'.
F4's dialogue system is worthless. It's literally "Yes", "Questioning Yes", "Bethesda Brand Insulting Yes", and "Later Yes" - you can see how bad it is with a mod to replace short words with what your character actually says, and quite a few of dialogues are literally identical for different options.
Said Bethesda Brand Arrogant Insults are also a problem of all their games since F3. NPCs constantly treat you like dirt (because the writers are incompetent, narcissistic fucks), best exemplified by Skyrim's "BITCH WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE YOU BUT THAT DOES NOT MATTER, GO KILL THE CHARACTER THAT HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT HELPFUL TO YOU WHILE WE WERE NOTHING BUT SHITTY TO YOU" Delphine ordering you to kill Paarthurnax, and F4's ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP.