Disney Sucks

@ANoobis  
Yup, it’s gross.

@ANoobis  
Fuck Disney and all that’s connected to it. And fuck the alphabet soup mafia too.

Lightyear is tracking to lose approximately $200m. Most outlets seem to agree that the movie’s break even point is somewhere in the range of $500 to $600m. Even Screenrant’s ridiculously optimistic assessment was $400m. Speaking of screenrant, I’m surprised they still have this and the previous article up on their site.

@ANoobis  
Wonder how long before they buckle and remove the lesbian kiss scene to appeal to other countries.

@Anonymous #3B11  
It’s gonna be so funny when they do.

@Amagan  
In one of the very few things I’ll give Disney credit for they at least didn’t buckle down on Day 1 about removing the scene. I just find it hilarious how much of a nothingburger this scene was and them adding it back in “to stick it to Flordia”

It isn’t just the kiss they’d have to edit. The actual reason the ME countries banned it is that two moms is against traditional Islamic family values. Disney would have to chop up every scene of them and change dialogue to make them not lesbians. Probably one would be a widow and the other would be the aunt.

@Anonymous #3B11  
I mean, at least they stuck to some value they professed over screaming about said value and then supporting mass ethic and religious suppression in China. Will see if they will fold. They have backed themselves into a corner and it would be hard for them to simply edit it out later, but repeating this again is where I think would the test would be.
 
@ANoobis  
They could have gotten away with it initially with some controversy, but now, with all the positioning and posturing on the topic I imagine your right.

That new Ms. Marvel show has the lowest viewership of any Marvel show so far. 775k per episode is about the average that Batwoman season 1 hit.
 
Naturally, the media is going all in on shilling for it.

@ANoobis  
I thought the Ms. Marvel show was pretty good. It strays waaay off from the comics, but people don’t usually mind that.

@Dex Stewart  
Any show or other form of media the company shills for, in the form of preemptively insulting the fans by falling them racist istaphobes before the first episode even drops, is doomed to failed from the very beginning.
 
Diversity hires are no excuse for piss poor writing, nor are they a substitute for effort.

@Amagan  
The diversity is pretty much the same as the comic.

Special effects houses are starting to turn on Disney for its abusive practices. The reason the MCU looks so shoddy in phase 4 is that Disney gives the visual effects people too little time to do the work, and interfere with the process the whole way. MCU effects are done in a state of crunch from start to finish.

@ANoobis  

 
I think people also need to hate on all of the ‘anti-fans’ who are the flip side of the ‘Disney Adults’: they claim that they hate everything Disney is doing nowadays, but can’t bring themselves to stop consuming Disney products or talking about them.
 
I don’t mean to imply that anyone in this thread is doing this, but I mean the kind of people who run Youtube channels where they watch all the newest Disney movies and then complain about them, as well as the people who enable this behavior by giving them superchats. These people delude themselves into thinking that they can get Disney to change its ways if they complain loudly and longly enough, but all they really do is enable Disney’s bad behavior by giving them money and publicity.
 
Disney knows that these people will stay on the plantation as long as they get thrown a bone every now and then, and I suspect Disney even incorporates them into its marketing strategy by intentionally riling them up to generate publicity.
 
The right thing to do is just to walk away. If everyone did that, then Disney would fade into irrelevance.

@Twiface  
>. These people delude themselves into thinking that they can get Disney to change its ways if they complain loudly and longly enough, but all they really do is enable Disney’s bad behavior by giving them money and publicity.  
Certain “fandom menace” culture warriors who existence relies on Disney being bad ultimately fall into a worse trap then that: if Disney were to move positively or have some moments requiring deeper analysis, they can’t acknowledge it because their careers DEPEND on Disney being the evil woke corporation. It’s sort of like how in some industries that are starting to be dominated by women (like STEM) still have programs, activist, and entire organizations in a mode of operation that it is still 1950. Even if these organizations could still probably justify there existence and have some issues the money from the outrage wouldn’t come in anymore.
 
>Disney knows that these people will stay on the plantation as long as they get thrown a bone every now and then, and I suspect Disney even incorporates them into its marketing strategy by intentionally riling them up to generate publicity.  
Agreed. only note here, I am not sure I would classify, say, a fan focused entity that is negative on the direction of a current franchise but still enjoys some aspects of it under the same definition as this.
 
>The right thing to do is just to walk away. If everyone did that, then Disney would fade into irrelevance.  
At least if you consider Disney evil and a net negative to society (say copyright law, China connection, etc). For me personally, why not very found of Disney, I don’t attempt to boycott it like I do with Amazon or Google. Sometimes family members take me to movies and show me media of theirs and I still have a moderate interest in Star Wars (albeit, not sure if Disney has made any money from me personally in the last 10 years).

@TheBridge
 

 
While it is true that they ultimately depend on Disney being evil to finance their grift, some of them will occasionally say that good things are happening to give their audience the impression that the tide is about to turn in their favor, though I think there is also an element of wishful thinking in there as well.
 
The poster child of this is the Midnight’s Edge podcast and their “Hollywood Game of Thrones” bullshit. They’re currently building a Qanon-esque cult around Bob Chapek because they want to believe he’s going to clean up the company, and before that they would keep claiming that Kathleen Kennedy was about to get fired.
 

 
Same for me. I’m not going to ruin quality time with my family over something like this. And you technically aren’t supporting them if someone else pays for your movie ticket or shows you something on their Disney+ subscription.
 
Now that I think about it, Disney owns so many things that it’s very difficult to boycott them unless you have a lot of niche interests or are willing to resort to piracy. The last time I (knowingly) paid money for a Disney movie I was on a trip and had nothing better to do that day.

There’s a term in psychology known as random, or intermittent reinforcement. If you reward a behavior at random times, the behavior will keep happening in the expectation that the reward will come at one time or the other without the certainty of when exactly it will come. Current events look a lot like a large scale application of random reinforcement. In other words, we are rats in a lab.

@IvanSatoru  
Then it’s time we chew through the wall and escape.

Another high profile brawl is making the news. Disney World, this time. One interesting detail I’ve noticed in all the reporting so far is that the family that was attacked has been banned from Disney. No word on the other group being banned, despite a few of them being arrested.
 
With all the price hikes recently, I’m surprised trash can still afford to go to Disney World.

@Amagan  
Just stop giving them your money.

@IvanSatoru  
I haven’t given them any money in years. I don’t intend to either.
 
Sucked throwing out all my phase 1-3 MCU DVDs though.

 

 

 
The resemblance is uncanny.

R.I.P. to national treasure  
 
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@Anonymous #2EFB  
Damn it…  

@IvanSatoru  
Cruella sucked anyway.
 
@Anonymous #2EFB  
I have zero interest in National Treasure anyway.