Derpibooru Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Relief Thread

@Anonymous #5F71  
I agree. It’s funny how the people who wanna show themselves as correct or holy persons are the first who have something hidden. I say this because, for example, the mentioned Derpistaffers want to paint Derpibooru as a safe space free of supposed “Nazis”, deleting images, commentaries, and posts; When the reality is they’re abusing of their power over the users, becoming ironically what they hate. But it’s okay, after all, we know that’s just a facade for their abusive behavior in Internet. That could be one of the reasons why they hate the Altboorus.
 
Some pages behind in this forum, I remember there was a little polemic about the Derpibooru staff sneak in here. Is hard to say who is a Derpistaff and who is just another user coming to fuck around; I guess the explanation is only tracking the patterns, but since I don’t know what’s the exact behavior of the Derpistaff here, I can’t talk so much about it. Why I mention this? Well, with the Altboorus, Derpibooru is losing little bit by bit the fame it used to had. Probably is even more painful when important artists left the site and turn their backs at the administration, complaining about the site policies, putting DNP in their art and forsaken Derpibooru.
 
With this said, the Derpistaff is only exposing their prepotency, hidden behind a false mask of order.

@KillswitchEngageHyperFanatic  
The odd part about them disliking altboorus and the mention of them since the beginning is that, under completely normal circumstances, they should welcome this as healthy competition.
 
I look at healthy business competition, and I see that good companies use up and coming businesses that rival them as free example and testing. If another company tries something you don’t, typically it’s smart to jump in on that and do something akin to them, while applying a bit of creativity. Long gone are the days where you make something extremely unique and inspiring, except in a few fields where that’s still possible. Now, creating your own thing is more like getting the basic concept down and making the quality target your price audience.
 
With Derpibooru, we didn’t, and don’t, see that. Derpibooru has discouraged altboorus since the beginning, and I think what they feared is what finally happened. People, and more important to them artists, finally decided to leave in a large exodus. They knew they couldn’t do what altboorus have been trying to do for a while now. They can’t treat people fairly because they have too much bias.
 
They won’t admit this, obviously. They don’t even know that that’s what’s going on. They’re under the understanding that they’re protecting people from ‘bad influences’ and ‘community threats’. They’ve said for years that I am a community threat, which fortunate for them has never amounted in me losing business from the fandom because of their crap, so I can’t sue them.
 
Imagine being a ‘community threat, but never once bringing anyone to harm and always ensuring that you bend over backwards to make sure your customers, whom are in the fandom, are happy. I’ve been reasonable ever since growing the fuck up. The time for Derpi staff to do the same has long passed.

@Psy Key  
It’s funny how they quickly changed from “We’re glad to see altboorus” to ban any serious discussion about them and their differences with Derpi. The only comments remaining about this are the typical sockpuppets with their overused “muh nazi” arguments.  
They thought altboorus would be dead around a month or so, or maybe like Furfagbooru the altboorus would make an alliance with them.

Well, the leaked chatlogs showed that some of the most fucked up staffers wanted the creation of alboorus so they could ask their undesirable users to move there and stay there, but evidently none of them ever suspected that later they would hemorrage users that badly and how even their prized users would migrate there.  
Now and then /mlp/ is spammed by the same morons who try to disencourage people from submiting DNPs and also tries to convince them to go back to Derpibooru, but no matter how many times he’s told to get lost he keeps coming back for another try over and over again.

@Psy Key  
Catches my attention how you mention they say you’re a threat for the fandom. I don’t know why they think so, and I don’t know if I want the context, but how I said this catches my attention because Derpibooru was supposed to be a free space for people who like ponies, like us. If the administration of a sane place says you’re a threat for the fandom, then you should be someone dangerous, a bad person who’s in the fandom making chaos or even causing real damage to the people. But based in the prejudices the Derpi staff carry on their backs, I’m pretty sure the excuse is too stupid for a normal person, or at least it did not have enough reasons to make an affirmation like that.
 
You know what I think is really dangerous? This idea of faulting everyone who disagrees with the current politics in the site. Sure, as you said they will never admit the flaws on the site or even in the personal, because their egos are big as an ocean; Actions speaks louder than words. It’s not necessary to admit they’re abusive, prejudiced, prepotent, etcetera. The wave of censorship in the site maybe has deplete since the last year with the polemic with Aryanne, however for example, the tags Deleted From Derpibooru or Banned From Derpibooru here still active and getting updates everyday. Most of the images exposes things which awkward the Derpistaff. Others have no reason to being deleted, and we wonder why they’re under the tag with logical ideas.
 
We’re supposed to be the villains of the history, but who are the people that censorship, abuse of their users, delete things because hurt their egos or feelings, stains even more the fandom, and can’t even ask for forgivness? I don’t know man, looks like we are not the bad guys. And if you ask me, the current Derpibooru can be classified as a true threat for the fandom. Because is a place known in the fandom, with tons of users and artist even after this disaster. It doesn’t matter how much the Derpistaff tries to cover the sun with a finger, the reality is you get what you give. Reap what you sow. With the fame the site have left, it’s almost impossible to be aware of this theme, either you investigate or either you become a victim. At least one of the options could happen to you.
 
I mentioned before the Derpibooru site can be threat for the fandom, because, with that said, anyone who’s not aware of the polemic and investigates or get censorship, bans, etcetera, and since Derpibooru is a very well known site, the people who wants to join the fandom probably will get a bitter taste after seeing the idiots who call themselves Administrators. Even if the fandom is already toxic in someways, I imagine an experience like that could be a kick in the face. The Derpistaff looks incapable to measure the consequences.

@Anonymous #5F71  
Imagine attempting to stop the hemorrhaging simply by saying, “No, stay on Derpi so the fandom has more places to see your art,” and so forth. Imagine not understanding that people don’t want to be associated with the site except in a disgusted manner and mocking attitude.
 
Imagine waking up every morning, of every day, looking in the mirror and seeing the sad excuse for human life that is the Derpibooru Staffer.
 
Imagine being Meow, Joey, TSP, etc.
 
@Anonymous #B19F  
Well, the ‘we’re glad to see altboorus’ thing is just a façade. They have no other options because it’s extremely bad, in ANY environment, to say, “Well, we don’t like seeing competition, especially competition we can’t compete with.”
 
Usually, if you’re not wanting to speak ill of competition, but don’t want to seem like you are welcoming them, you just don’t acknowledge them. If you own a Pizza Hut chain and a Domino’s opens up across the street or an eighth of a mile down the road, you’re likely not going to say a word about them. When I worked at Home Depot, we never spoke an ill word about Lowe’s, despite Lowe’s performing far below Home Depot in sales, customer service, and product availability.
 
Derpibooru doesn’t want to make the public feel like they’re weak, despite them doing that very thing with their behavior. They wanted altboorus around, yes, to try and dump ‘bad users’ off onto them. It shows a profound misunderstanding of themselves and how they look to other people, to the point they feel they can do no wrong because they believe themselves to be paragons.
 
Looking back, Meow spoke to me about some people he had to deal with in the past. I won’t go into detail, but what I can say is that their entire story was vague at best, and I thought nothing of it at the time because I was trying to be nonjudgemental and polite. Looking back, it seems they were trying to make me feel sorry for them, and make the other guys look bad. At no point in the story were they ever at fault, and I’m seeing this more and more with those who know they may look bad in something. They omit it from the story. Much like the jew in Russia, they want to tell you what happened, but never why it happened. I’ve become much more wary of anyone who words a story like they’ve done nothing wrong in the entire ordeal. People do not get upset at you for no reason. You do not wake up one day and just shoot your neighbor in the stomach with a shotgun without a reason behind it. Even if it’s a bad reason, which outnumber good reasons in nearly every circumstance, you still need a reason to do something.
 
Looking back, I’d wager Meow did something to piss these people off, which they may or may not realize (both options fit), and this resulted in ridicule and resentment between the two parties.
 
There’s a major difference between not wanting to openly admit your faults, which is normal, and blatantly trying to hide them. Derpibooru staff want to hide all of their faults, or they simply don’t know their faults. If they didn’t want to openly admit them, they would admit to them in private and also learn from them. They don’t know where they fail, and it’s exactly why they don’t want even more users reading how other boorus are better.
 
If they were a store, and you went there to shop, and you tell your friend that you’re going somewhere else for milk, Derpibooru staff would be the kind of people to say, “Don’t talk about that store in here! Our store is much better, and we don’t want that store being advertised at all here!”

@KillswitchEngageHyperFanatic  

A.k.a. Dolores syndrome (remember Dolores Umbridge? A facade of pink kittens hiding an unredeemable child abuser), a.k.a. the-first-to-shout-“thief!”.
 
@Psy Key  
Keyword healthy. Abusers are not healthy. They don’t want competition because competition cuts into their control, and has a sizable risk of making them lose it completely (and considering how such psychopaths behave, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy).  

Even that, if done without engaging the brain, just results in everything you produce being tumblrina styled.  
No really that’s the exact same mechanism by which tumblr art style came into being.  

Quite telling of the amount of real influence they hold, innit?
 
@Anonymous #B19F  
You can’t make an alliance when both sides are openly run by exact same people. It’s not even “two distinct countries who happen to have a same king” situation, it’s a blatant work up for a merger into furpibooru, because furbooru is failing, like everyone BUT joey, meow, etc has expected for economy 101 reasons (if the market already has supply, and existing supply sources can scale up to match demand, you will need to compete a lot harder to not fail, and derpibooru tag system is the best, but not good enough to do so) while derpi needs to be dragged kicking and screaming to delete furry artworks from the site.

@KillswitchEngageHyperFanatic  
To my understanding, they believe I’m a threat to the community because I’m not PC and I’m a bit hectic. Most of my bans on Derpibooru have been because of rule 0. All of my permabans have been based on personal evidence or failed understanding. For example, one time I was simply trying to survey for how many people would be interested in an after dark thing at this prominent convention. I wanted to survey via Derpibooru because, at the time, they were the largest concentration of possible convention attendees. Can you guess what I was permabanned for? The assumption that I was harvesting email addresses, since Google’s system requires an email login to ensure their single response restriction works. They never had any evidence I was saving emails, and how could I show them any since I wasn’t collecting that data, that was all on Google’s side of things. That didn’t matter to them, though. The only thing that matters is what they think.
 
Now of course, after some time I expanded my own business into things, and prominent artists that I sell for, like RatofDrawn, Alcor, PearlyIridescence, and many others got upset over this, because obviously they want to make money and being unable to advertise on Derpi was a huge problem. Derpi staff caved because some of those I sell for were going to pull their artwork and put up DNPs.
 
But, now I’m permabanned because I released a lot of info that shows the worst of Meow, and other staff. Offsite, mind you. I’m a community threat because I spoke ill of them.
 
Doesn’t matter, though. Maybe one day I’ll dump money just to make advertisements all over the place that specifically show all their flaws. I’ll go even as far as putting up billboards in Texas and California. Maybe one in Indianapolis for specific reasons.

@Psy Key  
The argument typically isn’t “stay on derpi so the fandom has more places to see your art”, it’s “the alts are dead, derpi has the most people, if you don’t go back you’re only hurting yourself, think of all the exposure and all the money you could make from it.” They don’t want anyone to even think of interacting with the alts, they want to see them abandoned so they aren’t a threat to their stranglehold on the pony art community. This is why they instigate inter-altbooru infighting as well.
 
Can’t say it hasn’t worked, either. A portion of the artists from both the anti-nazi and anti-censorship pledges have gone back, and the ones who stayed out of it are slowly being convinced to DNP over here, whether by woot’s disciples or derpi itself. Again, they want the alts to appear as unappealing as possible so when they fuck up again less artists are willing to join this community over retreating to twitter for a year.

@Psy Key  

 
Certainly it does not. Though, only seeing that he wished harm on somebody, or cheered it on at some level, I see all the time, including here. I do not know the full context and lot of folks do that across the political spectrum with varying degrees of seriousness or joking intent, usually a bit of both. Thus, till I see it and know the context can I say it is truly over the top and out of line? I tend to be cautious with running such allegations till I see it…
 
 
@Barhandar  

 
Though this is a good point that he does have a history of rage fits, which could put that over the top.
 
@Psy Key  

 
It is just as much the rise of a right, or, not as libleftprogressive government as being perceived as a threat, at least in my experience with talking to others on that side of the political spectrum. It’s not wrong to care for the politics of another country and I think the argument can be made that what goes on there can affect him on some level, but my biggest gripe with the hysterical treatment of, and overly focusing on, the politics of the anglophone realm is it is often coupled with a hypocritical divisive attitude for concerns from a right perspective (why do you care about Critical Race Theory in the USA? Your a Spaniard!) or making their own countries absolutely off limits using the same logic that they reject to apply with the anglophone. I can’t say I’ve seen that exactly from TSP himself but I have from others around him and with plenty of other folks like that.
 

 
I have certainly seen that behavior with the way they have treated some users. Particularly in regards to politics.
 
@KillswitchEngageHyperFanatic  

 
In my experience they didn’t hate the altboorus so much as display a dismissive arrogance to them. Now, I suppose that could be different but this I’d imagine where the majority of their mindsets were at And I saw such sentiments expressed before.  

 
On some level, I can’t blame them for developing that mindset. All other boorus, from bronibooru to octobooru* died or were complete ghost towns due to the superiority of their site and software. I can see them organically having such a sentiment develop but it was a woefully wrong and underestimating the abilities of others. I don’t care how supposedly complicated Philomena is, their are plenty of other people who exist at, or just below, or above, your skill level who can get it to run and work.
 
*^I have heard mixed stories of how Octobooru died with some laying the blame on derpi sabotaging them or stealing their features and others saying that the creator sucked. Though I cannot verify any of it and could be none of those. ^

@Anonymous #428A  
Then we have to start squashing their FUD. With enough effort, we’ll get them to dismantle their own userbase AGAIN simply by leaving them to their own devices.
 
There are ways to attack Derpi with their own poor system, but I don’t want to incite an organized raid, since war games are a bad idea especially optics wise, so I’d say just let Derpibooru die out on it’s own.
 
But I’ll always keep something in the back pocket. For a rainy day.
 
Meanwhile, I will promote PB literally everywhere I go where there’s bronies. I already do it on CSGO, Discord, and other sites.

@Anonymous #428A  

glhf instigating infighting between an archive, a derpi alternative, another archive, and a wokebooru that is deader than both of the archives
 
@TheBridge  

You haven’t seen the amount of shills altboorus thread on /mlp/ has got over the year.  

For the same reason furbooru died: no demand. HowEVER, the idiotic actions of Derpi staff a year ago have dropped their ability to supply pony, hence creating demand for alternate pony site and a need to archive stuff (as derpi has proven they’re liars and will go back on their word; they’ve explicitly stated Aryanne was safe in the spring of 2020, but come july and you know what happened).

@Barhandar  

 
If the altbooru thread isn’t discussing something, it’s taking the stupidest bait known to man.  

 
Not that far as I recall, unless it came up during Applejack’s Plantation (although I don’t remember that spilling into derpi). I do remember they said she was safe during the first or second week of June, right after Joey pledged the site’s allegiance to black supremacists, and went back on it on the fourth week.

@Anonymous #428A  
>Applejack’s Plantation spilling into Derpi  
Bruh, it literally was a catalyst in disguise.

@Barhandar  
I have seen some suspect activity and mentioned it before Some of the allegations I find rather dubious and /mlp/ just running with bait, others I find it hard to not put the blame on at least someone who isn’t allied with Derpi in some way.
 
 
@Anonymous #428A  
They did say it During the mini BLM row that happened two or three weeks before.  

 
Or more like acted dismissive with it and mentioned it as an example of something absurd to even ponder happening.

@TheBridge  
removal of straight couples from derpi when btw

@Barhandar  
“When” is boring. “How” is more fun to speculate. R3 with the excuse of “we have enough of these” again? Actually purging an image for R2? The possibilities are endless.

@Barhandar  
I’d be okay with it lol

@TheBridge  
So, their solution is to not treat people with equal respect, because they would be attacking all groups instead of attacking 1 group?  
Fucking Europeans, man. Most of them have been cucked to the core. This is what Rome saw all those years ago, the ignorance and simple-mindedness, and we’re seeing it again.
 
@Barhandar  
Fucking Ouroboros Cycle.
 
@Anonymous #428A  
>We have enough of these  
Literally admitting they’re collecting images and it’s a first come first serve. Mark my fucking words, if I ever get the chance to melt those servers down, I will record myself doing so and hammer the word ‘NIGGER’ into the metal before hanging it on my wall. If anyone thinks I’m just kidding around and having fun, I keep my word.
 
@Dex Stewart  
It would drive even more people to the altboorus. Better for us.

@Barhandar  
When/if the overton window in wider society gets to the point that such becomes unacceptable to have harmful non LGBT affirming portrayals. ||For real though, never, I don’t imagine society going that far and I imagine that would hurt too much of the NSFW side even for there liking ||
 
^Though, they did even go so far as to briefly ban communism… ^
 
@Anonymous #428A  
True.
 
@Dex Stewart  
That is what makes you more based then us.
 
@Psy Key  

 
In context that was him trying to assures us on how limited in scope the BLM actions were. Putting emphasis on how tiny it was. “We are not banning all this, just this one little thing”.

@TheBridge  

honk honk
 

That was hilarious. Joey et al tripping head over heels to shit on absolutely everyone and their efforts.
 

Insert scrolling list of all people force-filtered with GFPF and GFPF2 as the filter, with a counter of how many of the force-filters are about pride month instead.
 
@Anonymous #428A  

“Again”?  
I personally bet on them starting with their pet autists shitting straight images up with screeching about how it offends them, and comments getting locked instead of tards banned, then images starting to get deleted once enough of them are spammed with it.
 
@Psy Key  

Welcome to decadence. And welcome to the Great Filter.

@Barhandar  

 
A screencap of one of the G5 characters with the caption “I think [character] is very cute” was removed for R3, and the excuse given was “We have enough of these”.

@Anonymous #428A  
That’s far below removing the Ary bootycall edit for R3 (and insisting it’s for R3 three times afterwards).

@Barhandar  
True, it’s far from a loss. However, considering they regularly let the same stupid low quality macros through, and outright refuse to remove blatant furshit, it’s still completely retarded. Low quality it may be, but it breaks no rule of theirs.

@TheBridge  
“We’re just banning this one thing, because it goes against our ideals and political stances.”  
I fucking hate clowns, man. Why couldn’t they get whacked and not McAfee?
 
@Barhandar  
>decadence  
The Romans saw that shit from a mile away thanks to the Greeks being literal tards. Now we see it too. We’re boned.
 
>great filter  
Wait what?