Derpibooru Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Relief Thread

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That’s how it works. You don’t bend the rules for anyone, good or bad.
Muh private company that can do whatever it wants has been doing that for half a decade now. What rock you was living under? if they have a large influence and money, they don’t give a shit about that. So no, that not how that work if you don’t play attention at all. It only work for certain cases that not monopolize, which are tiny.
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And how that being working out lately? If you want them to truly stop you have to use their own rules and tactics they set themselves against them. To make them understand that what they defending and advocating for is BAD. The rules are not imply equally so they think is normal to do the things they are doing to others. “Muh principles” is not gonna stop that.
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Absolutely not. You do NOT sink to their level to try to make them feel bad for using bad tactics. That never works, for one (The internment of the Japanese citizens, the attempts at curbing the activities of the Nazi party, McCarthyism, as examples), and it just makes you as bad as they are. We cannot stop them from acting as they do, but we can hold a tight leash on the rules of our own space and make sure that freedom of expression IS maintained at least where we have a modicum of control.
 
In the words of Edward R. Murrow: “We cannot defend freedom abroad by abandoning it at home.”
 
IF these tactics are bad, and they are bad, then using them, regardless of the intended outcome is bad, regardless of target.
 
The way forward is to be the kind of place you’d like to inhabit. If you’d like to inhabit a place that tells these people no, then you have to stick to the principles that are the reasoning for telling these people no, or you’re just another terrible spot with a different bent.
 
You don’t fight fire with fire in the war on freedom of expression. That has never worked. The only thing you can do is protect yourself and others, argue with passion and make sure those you can ensure the freedom of have that freedom.
 
If you turn around and slap away the freedom of expression of the people who used to have sway over you out of spite, then you’re demonstrating that you don’t actually hold the principles of freedom for all, merely for yourself.
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you have to use their own rules and tactics they set themselves against them. To make them understand that what they defending and advocating for is BAD.
haha no  
That just entombs people in the belief that they’re right.
 
You want people to change? You have to do two things: first, get them to become disillusioned in whatever they believe, or interested in what you believe. Second, provide a support network.  
It doesn’t even have to be a REAL support network, just feel like one - it’s how skoptsy force-recruited people into their castrate cult, it’s how skoptsy 2.0 aka “trans community” are doing their recruiting; they added a third step of “get the gullible idiots to drop their former support network and reject attempts to create a new one”, but it’s a shitty step and makes said idiots vulnerable to reconversion (a practical example being neonazi converting into ardent burn loot murderer; they didn’t escape, they just changed cults, because they’re used to cults and the fake support), so if you want to actually deconvert, you need to avoid it.
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How much do you wanna lose in this war on freedom of expression if the opposition will do every dirty trick in the book to slowly chip that away from you?
 
We can’t just continue to go underground forever. Their has to be a point in time when enough is enough.
 
@Barhandar  
It not a long term change because that will take a whole another generation to sort itself back. It’s more along the line of Self-reflection if that the right way of saying it. They never live by those rules they want to place towards other. Once they experience it themselves they completely flip the script and advocating for freedom of speech.
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@RD8K  
You don’t lose anything if you don’t let them take ground. There’s a difference between yielding and tolerating the existence of opposite viewpoints. These two things are not synonymous for a reason. Don’t act like the people you hate.
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@NorthyDreams  
Can we stop for a moment to appreciate that you can normally maintain your composure no matter how annoying or insulting the other person is being, but being called a furry is fighting words?
 
Also I think they were referring to some BP that was in here a week or two ago.
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@RD8K  
Was a joke, because up until that point you’d been arguing with me. Wasn’t meant to be serious, as I said.  
Was just jarring to see you suddenly drop what we were discussing to talk to someone else like that, especially considering how persistent others have been.
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I drop it because I thought it about more and Its hypothetical of what I’m advocating. From my experience with them “Pacifistic tactics” doesn’t stop individuals who will use all means to destroy you. Even if it means having as many casualties as a end result. At the same time, why would they even care if we opposed less of a thread then 4chan?
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