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UrbanMysticDee
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Just got finished watching the Trump Town Hall. Phenomenal. Much better than a debate. Debates are shitshows, this actually got to the heart of real issues. Great people asking questions, every one of them, great people. That one lady in the background, such great energy and enthusiasm. I’m glad she was there.
Anonymous #D018
@GarbageHorse  
Its not just ||the Khazars, its also the Sephardic and Mizrahi chosenites. The Federal Reserve is a big fat swindle that AFAIK he hasn’t got to auditing like he promised back in 2016. ||
UrbanMysticDee
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@Officer Hotpants  
That’s Twitter speak. It forces you to talk in short phrases because people can’t pay attention for more than ten seconds. It’s true.
 
 
I had a startling revelation reading Jason Chaffetz’ book “The Deep State”. He’s a big time “conservative” (and a former never-Trumper), that means he likes smoking cigars, driving expensive and inefficient cars, and eating animals to extinction. He says that the solution to ending the power of the Deep State is to make the government more like the private sector, where unions don’t exist, everything is at-will, managers have absolute power to fire anyone they want for any reason they want and can run their departments like fiefdoms, get rid of pensions and 401(k), and bonuses. He has multiple orgasms over the way the private sector treats its workers like shit (except with the visas undercutting wages, he does want to get rid of that). He says that it’s a failure of the government that people stay at the same job for 20 years where as the average private sector job lasts 4 years. And he faced tremendous opposition to reforming the system during his time in Congress.
 
No shit. He spells it out and still can’t see it, but it all of a sudden makes absolute perfect sense to me. Why is the government fighting so hard to avoid all oversight?
 
Because the private sector is broken!
 
The private sector is shit. No pensions, no bonuses, no healthcare, no union protection, managers who can act like kings, executives who are making 400 times the wages of regular workers, visa programs that allow companies to fire American workers and contract foreigners at a fraction of legal American wages, 50 years of wage stagnation.
 
This wasn’t always the case. In the 50s and 60s union wasn’t a dirty word, it was a sign of pride, and pensions and profit sharing were rewards for hard work and company loyalty over a multi-decade long career. And executives only made about 5 times the wage of a regular worker, and those wages kept pace with inflation.
 
The government is bloated, inefficient, lacks oversight, and resists change precisely because there is nowhere else for those workers to go. Government workers don’t leave after time served and go into the private sector because there are no private sector jobs to go to. Government agencies are doing everything in their power to hold onto the last vestiges of the great post-war workers economy this country used to have.
 
If you want to eliminate the Deep State the best thing you can do is fix the private sector. Once you fix working conditions for everyday Americans the swamp will drain itself.
GarbageHorse

Aspiring Kyle
@Officer Hotpants  
We’re going to be amazing. It’s going to be like nothing you’ve seen before. Let me tell you, we’re going places, big league.
 
@UrbanMysticDee  
Unions are the primary reason manufacturing and industry went to Asia. First Japan, then China. They made America noncompetitive for exactly the reasons you seem to believe were a good thing.
 
It won’t matter soon enough. We are headed for a post-labor economy. Automation makes unskilled humans a burden on society. The countries which embrace it will rule the world, the ones which reject it will fight over the scraps.
Anonymous #D018
@GarbageHorse  
>implying Unions have the exact same views and goals regardless of the occupation.  
Nah.  
I say put limits on outsourcing manufacturing to other countries, and those jobs that do get sent overseas be more spread out than they currently are now, rather than almost entirely sending them to Japan, China, and India. Also, a cautious yes to making viable synthetic workers that can work in certain manual labor jobs such as picking fruits and vegetables.
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@UrbanMysticDee  
You know what? I’m not even sure what you meant when you mentioned ST6; can you clarify? Did you suggest that we should send ST6 to do to the escaped executives what they did to Bin Laden?
UrbanMysticDee
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@GarbageHorse  
China, Saudi Arabia, and Russia who all have nationalized industries don’t have trouble importing and exporting anything. Absent the asinine US sanctions on Russia, of course.
 
Do you want to get rid of the “Khazar” bankers or not? I suggest seizing the assets of the elites if they don’t put the interests of American workers ahead of their own, and now all of a sudden “Socialism is bad”?
 
@IvanSatoru  
Don’t even have to do anything to them. They leave the country, revoke their citizenship, seize their assets, nationalize the company.
 
 
No one ever complains when other countries institute economic nationalism, but America has to have “free” markets that bleed our wealth and technology. Why should we bow down and submit while other countries protect their people and industries?
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Trump is pushing for another round of stimulus checks.  
Democrats are hindering this.  
…what?!  
Free money,and you say no?!  
Oh, he’ll give more to corporations…so what? We’ll all get money,and it’s not like there’s going to be inflation going on.  
This is confusing.
UrbanMysticDee
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@IvanSatoru  
Whatever you call it doesn’t seem to be bad for the average person in Saudi Arabia who is living like a king off of the ocean of money that’s being pulled out of the ground. It wasn’t bad when Gadaffi raised the standard of living in Libya to the highest in the whole African continent until Hillary Clinton murdered him and started a civil war. It wasn’t bad when Teddy Roosevelt broke the trusts and America went from being a backwater to being a global power. It isn’t bad for Egypt and Panama when they nationalized the Suez and Panama canals, or for Alaskans who get paid for the oil under their land.
 
You can try to pass all the purity tests you want and throw whatever words at me you think are dirty, I care more about the American people than Mark Zuckerberg’s portfolio.
 
 
The US doesn’t have TRUE capitalism, LOL
 
Forget the blue pill, red pill, or black pill, take the shekel pill and become a nationalist.
 
A nation is more than an economy, it’s a people.
 
Muh private company can pay people whatever they want because the <<market>> determines your value
 
 
@Dex Stewart  
They want power. They don’t care about the people, they want power. They don’t care how many people starve to death, they want Congress, SCOTUS, and the White House, and they will do anything to gain and maintain that power.
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@UrbanMysticDee  
Getting rid of the bankers doesn’t imply socialism. Even nationalization does not inherently imply that, as no nation has ever been without nationalist economics in some form, and it existed long before socialism. Forced equality, which is what you were suggesting, does. Unions are a socialist invention used to pressure businesses to offer workers more than their market value. Which as I explained, for no-skill labor, is approaching zero as time goes on. That will eventually reach a critical point; unions only make the problem worse.
 
I reject the idea of a society where those who are skilled are beholden to supporting those who are not. Very soon, we will have no jobs for the vast majority of what are currently minimum wage workers. The solution isn’t unions. It’s not welfare. It’s decreasing the amount of unskilled people in society. The worst way to do that is to encourage people by artificially inflating their wages or giving them welfare. Being unskilled needs to become a failure state no one wants to fall into in our society, not the easiest option. That is how Asian countries operate and it is a large part of why they are overtaking us.
 
I think we should address the problem of people whose skill is, essentially, defrauding the public. That’s where you get bankers. That’s where you get investors. I don’t believe we should be trying to redistribute the wealth of someone who made a piece of software they made millions off of. I don’t believe we should tax the engineer to pay for the ditch digger that was replaced by a ditch witch the engineer designed. That’s where we get to socialism. And that’s where you step into the graveyard of nations, because you incentivize bad behavior and penalize good behavior.
 
Trying to fix the problem of unskilled labor being worthless by blocking imports only ensures the problem becomes worse. As automation proceeds, other nations will prosper off of it, and we will become more of a banana republic dependent on manual labor. We already saw this happen in the industrial revolution. One of the primary reasons Britain and Germany became as powerful as they did was because they quickly industrialized. Russia, on the other hand, ended up falling to communism as their system fell apart. Remember, in many ways, China has already surpassed us. We don’t have leeway to be screwing around.
 
My view is very simple. The state should discourage what we do not want in society. It should reward what we do want. Currently, we do the exact opposite, and it’s why we’re in a steep decline.
UrbanMysticDee
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I never advocated for forced equality, I want to make it so people can’t be deplatformed, denied loans or banking, or fired for wrongthink, or not hired to meet artificial racial quotas, or because a company can save money by renting an incompetent H1B visa worker from India at Indian “market” rates rather than hiring a highly skilled American at American “market” rates who will have to train the Indian anyway before being let go to do the exact same job. And if you think a construction worker or a pipefitter is not skilled try it. Nor am I for confiscating the wealth of engineers.
 
And the easiest way of decreasing the amount of unskilled people in society is eliminating work visas, putting a moratorium on new immigration, and deporting the millions of illegals who are artificially depressing wages, not all of a sudden letting millions of Americans become unemployed because China gives an industrialist a tax break. China also has tariffs. And they’ve surpassed us because we let them, because Bill Clinton sold them our factories and our patents. The US doesn’t need China, but the Chinese economy will collapse without the US buying all their cheap crap. At the very least we could switch to buying sweatshop Adidas from Pakistan or Honduras, bring key industries back to the US like electronics and heavy machinery, and collapse the Chinese economy and become undisputed hegemon of the world.
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@UrbanMysticDee  
I don’t ignore the catastrophic results of socialism and that America became a great country first because God was good to America and America had the good sense to have a permissive economy and lots of freedom.  
I think you are under the impression that I am some kind of libertarian or modern hypocrite conservative. Let’s just say I don’t want this country turning into yet another godless tyranny where >no fun allowed, and unfortunately that’s what’s happening.
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